Enigma 2, for your brain to exercize more

[ilyaslamasse]

OK, so the answer to the other one was : there's the same quantity of wine in the water than water in the wine. t2d would have found out if he hadn't rounded the numbers. Congrats to him !

Here's the next one : I'm in the jungle, all alone, with my backpack, and my lighter. Everything's cool, when suddenly a huge snake comes down a tree. I knock it out easily, but I somehow scratch my arm against its big tooth with poison in it.

Fortunately, I have an antipoison, but the bad trip is that I have to cook it for 45 minutes exactly, and I don't have a watch. What I have instead is a well functionning brain, and creepers, that all burn in one full hour, but not steadily. This means that if I cut one in half, each half won't burn in 30 minutes. That would be too easy...

How can you do that ??

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

There are 2700 seconds in 45 minutes. Count. One, one thousand. Two, one thousand. Just don't lose count. And what kind of crappy anti-venom is that anyways? You have to cook it for 45 minutes? Ridiculous. Sounds like a French brand of anti-venom to me. American anti-venom is always ready to go. Like McDonalds french fries. ar ar

pj

[I am not Jubba]

This is obviosuly a French riddle, because what normal person would be in the jungle; 1) without a watch and 2) carrying a backpack that had nothing at all useful in it.

[ilyaslamasse]

Ok, so while fighting against the snake, your watch got eaten, and this brand of anti venom is French fo the only reason that the American anti-venom was too darn expensive fro you to buy it.

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

id rather pay more and not have to worry about baking the dam thing for 45 minutes, cuz while your cookin the anti-venom you'll probly get eaten by a cougar or something.

[Phil Jayhan]

Ya, what Jubba said about the cougar. 45 minutes is a long time. I would assume you would be there moaning and groaning as well so as to attract all the wild animals. And Jubba right about the watch too. Who goes camping without a watch? What is this guy from the French Foreign Legion or something?
And can one really trust an anti-venom that has to be cooked for 45 minutes? Do we need a pot to boil it in? A fire? Matches, lighter? Did the Bic lighter survive the giant snake attack? And are you sure the snake is dead? He might be merely unconscious. Is there anyways for you to get any of the more trustworthy, though more expensive, American made snake anti-venom? Lemme know.

pj

[I am not Jubba]

I know the answer to the riddle. There is no answer. You are left to die in agony as the venom reaches your brain. Psycosis sets in as you run around the jungle yelling and screaming, attracting the wild beasts. And just as the venom slows you down to the point where you are conscious, but unable to move, that is when the cougar catches up to you, and begins to eat you; while are you sitting there watching it.

[ilyaslamasse]

What can I say to this ??? 'SABOTAGE !!!!' maybe ?

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

Sabatage? Thats is an old swede word from the root Sabot. Which is the name of the clogs, the shoes they wore. Sabot's. Apparently, when they would revolt they would throw a shoe into the machinery and it would cause a work shortage...The authorities called it a crime of 'Sabotage,' from the name of their shoes, Sabots. So why did I write all that again...O yea. Sabotage? Are you crazy? Do you think me and Jubba would do that? No way. Not in a million years. Unhunh.
What was the purpose for this string again anyways Pom? :rollin:

pj
the sabot

[I am not Jubba]

I've been thinking about this, and i can't figure out a way. Once someone has the answer, I have another riddle for everyone.

[ilyaslamasse]

OK, since noone seems to find that one (or more probably pay attention to it), here's a hint : you can burn your creeper by both ends...

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

but how does that helps since the creepers don't burn steadily? and wth is a creeper?!

[ilyaslamasse]

lol :D I found the word in my dictionnary. I thought it was those long plants Tarzan uses to travel.

pom 0]

If you burn it fro both ends, it will burn twice as fast, no matter how steady it goes...

[I am not Jubba]

i see. but still don't get it. I'll have to think about it, and i'll probly kick myself for not knowing it.

[Phil Jayhan]

I give up. Uncle.

pj

[ilyaslamasse]

OK, here's the solution (that's because I want to hear Jubby's) :

If you burn the rope's (let's call it that) two ends, it will burn in 30 minutes, all right ? Just think about it for a minute and you'll find it's clear.

Now we want 45 minutes. So we burn one rope's two ends, and another rope on one end. After half an hour, the first rope will be totally burned, and the second will have 30 minutes left in it. At this moment, burn the other end of the rope, it will consume in 15 minutes.

Hence 45 minutes. Voilà.

pom 0]

Phil, I can't find my text... I eventually will, but not right now. Really sorry about that...

[I am not Jubba]

ok yeah, but if the thing doesn't burn steadily then i don't see how that can be possible. I understand, but if they don't burn steadily then..ohhhhhh...i see. But it still doesnt make sense.

Fine heres my riddle::

You are in a solid concrete room. Just 4 walls, a ceiling, and a floor, no windows or doors. In the room with you are a desk and a mirror. How do you get out?

[ilyaslamasse]

Going back to my riddle : imagine you burn one end of the rope. No matter how steadily it burns, it burns out in 1 hour. So when 30 minutes have passed, you still have 30 minutes to go (no connexion with the size of the rope).

Now if you burn the other end of the rope as well, after 30 minutes, the 30 minutes you had left have gone up in smoke because you lit the other end... Still foggy ?

Your riddle : no door, of course...

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

Through the door silly! Got anything better? :rollin:

pj

[I am not Jubba]

i fixed it phil. there is no door. i forgot to mention that. and Pom i understand now.

[Phil Jayhan]

Hey Pom,
Does this sound familiar?....Jubba, doesn't make any sense. If he is in the room then he knows how he got in the room and would know how to leave without my help. If there is a desk and a mirror in the room they got there somehow. How long has he been in this room anyways and what does HE think of this room? Is it a nice room? Paneled? Is there electricity? We need more information man....

pj
:evil: but fair

[I am not Jubba]

Phil, you're lucky i don't know where you live. I'd come over there and kick your a$s. Ok fine.

You have been abducted (by aliens or otherwise, it doesn't matter). You wake up in a room. 4 solid concrete walls, a ceiling, a floor, no windows, no doors. The room is very boring, no pictures or anything, no panelling. There is a mirror and a desk. How do you get out?

[Phil Jayhan]

Is there, by any chance a phone on the desk or in the room?

pj

[I am not Jubba]

no for christ's sake there is only a desk and a mirror! nothing else!!!

[Phil Jayhan]

This really wouldn't be considered in the room but is there a ventilation chamber or airshaft big enough for a man to crawl through by any chance?

pj
:cool:

[I am not Jubba]

oh for the love a' Pete....dammit Phil! THERE IS NOTHING BUT 4 WALLS, A CEILING, A FLOOR, A MIRROR AND A DESK! NOTHING ELSE!!! NOTHING! NOT A PHONE! NOT A VENT! NOTHING! ZIP! ZILCH! NADA! NOTHING!!! lol answer the riddle, or if you don't know it, stop yappin!

[Phil Jayhan]

I don't know.

pj
who yappeth not

[I am not Jubba]

lol....thanks phil...did i hurt your feelings?:lol:

[Phil Jayhan]

Whats the frelling answer? Uncle. Ok. Pheel better? Lay it on me baby.

pj
the shagadelic one

[I am not Jubba]

i gotta wait for more than just you to try i'll let you konw the answer later.

[Phil Jayhan]

Like who else frellin cares? Notice this little thread hasn't attracted the world you know. Its just ME. NOW!

pj

[I am not Jubba]

i wanted to see if Pom could figure it out. I'll tell you tomorrow I'll give you a hint: to figure this out you have to play with words.

[Phil Jayhan]

you dig under the concrete walls.

pj

[I am not Jubba]

i'l tell you the answer as soon as Pom says that he doesn't know.

[ilyaslamasse]

Playing with words in English is not my cup of tea... You want to hear the words out of my fingers, in that right ? I DON'T KNOW. But beware, I have a very tough one coming for you...

So, what is it ?

pom 0]

[eyezberg]

who said the 4 walls are connected?
is it a mirror with an opening behind it?
phil said he doesn't know! ilyas too!

[I am not Jubba]

ok. yes the walls are connected. you people are just looking for an easy way out. ok here goes.

You look in the mirror, and see what you saw. You take the "saw" and cut the desk in half. Two halves make a whole. Climb out of the "hole".

[eyezberg]

HAr har..
Ok: you're driving, no lights on, no car comming the other way, moon isn't shining, no streetlamps, a black cat crosses right in front of you, still you manage to avoid it; how?

[ilyaslamasse]

The force, Luke... The Force !

I don't know, you look into your rear window, you see what you saw ?

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

its day time Eyez

[I am not Jubba]

-)(*&^%$#@!~!@#$%^&*()(*&^%$#@!@#$%^&* stupid ezboard.

[Phil Jayhan]

Ya, what Jubba said. Now Jubba. whats the frellin answer? Its tomorrow now today and I wanna know Jubba.

pj

[I am not Jubba]

i posted the answer you dolt!

[Phil Jayhan]

See what he 'saw'....This is so lame it's pathetic. Thats not a brain teaser. It.s a brain malfunction. What the hell kind of brain teaser is that? Come one man. Brain teasers are supposed to have an answer. Thats no answer Jubby.

pj
disappointed

[I am not Jubba]

bah you wouldn't know a good riddle if one bit you in the ***

:lol:

[ilyaslamasse]

Is your riddle like Jubba's ? Or is it worth searching ?

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

No, mines a real riddle. You don't have to ask any stupid questions like me, all you need to figure it out is right there.

pj
not Jubba

[I am not Jubba]

i answered your stupid riddle.

[ilyaslamasse]

I hav a very low tension those days. What was your riddle again ? Can't find it.
pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

lol...for some strange reason Philbert posted his riddle in the Princess Bride thread.

[ilyaslamasse]

OK, here's a new one (hard one) :
Phil, Jubba and Pom are playing a little game with Upu as referee. Upu has to put one ball on the top of each one's head, so that you can see other people's ball but not yours. Upu has a choice between 3 white balls and 2 black balls. The goal for each is to find his own ball.

Now here's the tricky part : The 3 fellows are thinking hard, watching the balls. Pom, seing 2 white balls, and seing that nobody's saying anything, says : "I have a white ball".

How did he (I, hehe) find that ?
Give it some real thought, because that's a tough one.

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

uhmmmmmm....yeah. I don't know..i'm thinking...but i have no frellin idea. But I'm still thinkin. Where's Philbert anyway...haven't seen him around...

[Phil Jayhan]

Is this a black man is bigger than a white man joke by any chance, you French soclialist pigdog pyseudo-communist, you....
pj

[ilyaslamasse]

Stop talking nonsense Phillie Boy, and think.
You have to think real hard. Hint : The guy (me) thinks : "I can see two white balls. Let's imagine that I don't have a white ball, what happens, what do the other people think ???"

In order to solve that, you have to consider that Pom's a little more clever than the others, which is, after all, not so difficult to admit.

pom 0] , modesty is my middle name

[I am not Jubba]

har har har Phil. If Pom (modesty my a$s) had a black ball on his head, then the others would see one black ball and one white ball. Of the 3 balls remaining then there would be a 33% chance of a black ball, and a 66% chance of a white ball. If Pom has a white ball then the there is a 66% chance of a black ball, and a 33% chance of a white ball. So in conclusion: I have no frellin clue.

[Phil Jayhan]

I dont have a clue but am trying to figure it out. Let me have this sunday, one more day to figure it out.

pj
good one pom

[Phil Jayhan]

If the ball on Poms head would have been black there would have something said by one of the two because now they truly couldn't tell the color of the balls on their own heads, an admission of being stumped. But since the ball was white, it drew confusion. But truly the only person in the position to know was Pom. the other two were at a disadvantage having their balls placed on their heads first. Did I get it right massa?

pj

[ilyaslamasse]

Little help :
OK, so I see two white balls and I think : Hmm... OK, let's say I have a black ball on my head. Phil, a clever man,thinks : hmm.... I can see one black ball, and one white ball... What does Jubby think ? What does he see ? Do I have a black ball or a white ball on my head ? What happens in both cases ? What time is it ?

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

Ok, three guys;
Guy 1 (whos not so smart) sees the white ball appear over Pom (guy 2). But because hes not exceedingly clever like, pom, doesn't get it right away. But Pom knows this; He doesn't have a black ball on his head or else guy #1 would have seen two black balls, thus knowing himself to be in possession of a white ball. So, the first guy, #1, cannot figure it out. But guy #2 does. Why? Because guy #1 didn't say anything at all, thus meaning he (guy #2) has a white ball. hows that?

pj

[ilyaslamasse]

You know perfectly how this is : impossible to understand. I guess the idea's here. Here's the official answer.

pom thinks : let' s imagine that I have a black ball on my head.
Then Jubba thinks : I see a white and a black ball. If I have a black ball on my head, then Phillie sees two black balls, and should say that he has a white ball on the head. But he doesn't. So I, Jubba, have a white ball.

But he doesn't say so. This means the first hypothesis was wrong, I have a white ball on my head.

How's THAT !?!

pom 0]

[Phil Jayhan]

Now thats a real brainteaser, not like your previous one and Jubbanuats wannabee teaser. It teased my brain. It was a good one. Out of a possible 5 stars, I give it ****

pj
now riddle me this batman

[I am not Jubba]

I'll get a good one. I have to think for a few...

[ilyaslamasse]

Having no success with Flash, I decide to sell oranges. I have 5 nice baskets full of oranges, but the guy who wold them to me somehow f**d me as he sold me one basket full of rotten oranges.

The only difference (from the outside) between an orange and a rotten orange is that rotten oranges weight 10 gramms more.

So here I am, with a weight-machine, not a digital one, but one with the plates and the needle... and I have to find out which basket contains the rotten oranges in just one weighing. How can I do that ?

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

now wait....under what circumstances would you be limited to the amount of times you could weigh the oranges? how realistic is this question?

[liveacoustic]

What? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.

Wouldn't you just weigh the bloody oranges and see which one's heaviest?

What, is it that there's no nice convenient numbers to look at?

Lazy.

Depending on the scale, you could still just weigh them against each other.

[Phil Jayhan]

Elementry My Dear Watson;
You simply take the oranges (both baskets) and weigh them together. Then since the orange seller is such an @#%$ and will not allow you to weigh twice (That should tip you off not to buy from this guy again) you remove one basket at a time noticing of course, which weighed more. Does that happen if France? I mean where merchants with scales only allow you to use the scale once? Seems unreasonable. But then Im not french. Hunh. What do I win? I want this as a prize; A headline saying; Phil figured it out before liveaccoustic and Jubba. That will suffice. :rollin:

pj

[I am not Jubba]

har har har...yeah that was an easy one...i'm sure i've heard it before somewhere...oh well...you post the next one Philbert...

[Phil Jayhan]

In the desert a dead man was found, sitting upright leaning against his backpack which was still unopened. There were no tracks leading to, or, from the body. There had been no storms to wash away such evidence. They observed this man had a water cannister that still held water so they knew he didn't die of thirst. There were no apparent wounds. Yet here he was, dead, in the middle of the desert without any apparent explanation as to why or how. Upon searching the body, they also found food and a cell phone that still worked and still had a signal. This only deepened the mystery. How did this man die?

pj

[I am not Jubba]

starvation?

[iCu MeHoo]

his parachute ripped or tore or the straps broke when skydiving or something and he fell like a rock and landed that way. he died on impact and there was no tracks, nor did he get a chance to drink or eat or call anyone.

this answer works perfectly.. he needs a backpack to parachute.. so tell me im wrong and i'll keel you.. make more descriptive questions then. =] My professor once taught me that the actual answer, if not the easiest to come by, is not the true answer. the first logical and WORKING answer is the right answer. so to a question that has a million answers, the first one stated that fits, but might not have been YOUR answer is the correct answer. little knowledge for future reference =]

[Phil Jayhan]

IcuMehoo-
You are correct! Congrats! Yes, his parachute didn't open and he smashed his way into that position. Jubba, you wouldn't make the best detective, as it was stated he HAD food. But I'll have mercy since this is just fer fun. Icu, don't keel me. I told you you were right....All your weapons and stuff, are like scaring me. Boy was this ever a short brain teaser. I'll have to take your advice Icu and do a little better next time.

pj
Icu-You won, now it's your turn! :cool:

[I am not Jubba]

but wait...i understand, but if someone fell while skydiving, and their parachute didn't open there would be some obvious signs of death. Yeah now I remember that you said Food. it was stupid of me to post starvation as an answer, because I told myself, "no he had food" and then I was like, his parachute didn't work, but then i was all like, "no because there was no obvious sign as to why he died"

[Phil Jayhan]

Actually JubbaRama-
You are INcorrect. I skydive myself. You know what happens when someones parachute doesn't open? You bounce. Really high the first time. Then you kind of just thud to a stop. There isn't always blood or any signs of trauma. But almost always there is death. 99.999% of the time. The other .001% are the lucky ones who had angels that were on the ball. And you are also assuming that all deserts are made purely out of sand which is not true. Lots of rock formations and regular ground as well.

pj
When I went to skydive the first time, I had to sign 27 pages of waivers, stating such things as; "I know I can die from skydiving, but want to do it and pay to do it anyways" check...next "I understand that my parachute may not open and the secondary chute may not open but agree that this is not neccessarily the fault of the skydiving school." 27 pages!!! of these!!!

[iCu MeHoo]

lol im not patient enough to make up a riddle.. i wouldn't have answered if i knew i'd have to.. i hereby wave my priveledges to jubba man.

[ilyaslamasse]

Sorry but Phil, your answer was INCORRECT. There is not necessarily as many oranges in each basket of fruit (at least in France).
Try again...

pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

Simple answer, Pom.

Sue the bastard for fraud.

He ripped you off some oranges. This is your source of income. That's a major offense.

You could get millions from that court case. That's a hell of a lot of oranges.

At the very least, you'll ruin his reputation forever.

Alternately, you could just do what Phil was doing except with only one representitive orange of weightiness from each orange basket.

[Phil Jayhan]

Open a can of American woopass on this f&$*%^&g french merchant! Stuff a rotten orange in his mouth, hold his eyes open and squirt orange juice inside his eye sockets, then paint the bastard with a laser from afar and call in an American airstrike on em. Isn't that the way we do it nowadays?

pj
then when after the JADAM missile slams into his chest and the 'debris' settle, go and weigh the oranges as many times as you @#%$ well want, Pilgrim...
Thats the way we did it in the old West, only without the laser, airplane and guided missile.

[ilyaslamasse]

It doesn't work, you have 5 baskets. If you weight 5 oranges from 5 different baskets, you won't be able to tell which one is rotten.

pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

I don't see how that proves my lawsuit idea wrong.

Or Phil's bombing, for that matter, even if it does turn him in to a massive hypocrite overnight.

(I COULD try to answer the question, but being an *** is SO much more fun!)

Actually, wait. I don't see how that proves anything wrong.

Couldn't I just remember that that orange came from that basket and that orange came from that basket and that orange etc.?

[ilyaslamasse]

OK, let's start again. You have 5 baskets full of an undetermined number of oranges. You scale is brocken, and you only have time for one weighing. One basket contains rotten orange that weight 10 gramms more than regular oranges. You have to find out which basket is the rotten one.

And no, remembering won't be of any help, since you won't know which one weights more !

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

Take a bite into one orange from each basket and when you bite into one that taste like sh!t, you found the rotten basket. I WIN I WIN I WIN I WIN!!

[liveacoustic]

If it was 3 oranges, you could measure two against each other. If one outweighed the other, it was the rotten orange. If they were the same weight, the one you didn't weigh is rotten.

BUT... There's 5. Best I can come up with so far is to weigh 2 oranges against 2 oranges. If they're the same weight, easy enough, the left over orange is rotten. If one side's heavier, open both oranges up and you only waste one orange.

Alternately, you could look at the orange and see what you SAW, the cut the oranges in to two HAlVES and you'll HAVE the knowledge as to which orange is rotten.

... Sorry, Jubba. Couldn't resist.

[Phil Jayhan]

It is possible I smeel a fink here.

Pom-
Could the answer be something thus; Check the basket and find the oranges that are being buzzed by fruit flies?

doh.
pj
<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

[liveacoustic]

I've been thinking about it and I still don't see why Phil's idea doesn't work. Maybe Pom doesn't completely understand how it works.

I put two oranges on each side of the scale. Each one has the basket it came from on its side. So...

(I'm not sure if ASCII art works on EZboard.)

0 = basket
1 = orange
|, -,\, / = weight

0 0
--- ---
|1|_____|1|
|1| |1|
--- ---
0 0

Now, I check which side's heaviest: left or right? If they're the same weight, the left-over basket is rotten. If the left side's heavier, I take the oranges closest to me off each side (left and right).

So now I'm comparing two oranges. If the two oranges weigh the same amount, the removed orange is the rotten orange.

If one orange is heavier than the other that it's the rotten orange.

Now I just check which basket is the co-responding basket (as per the one that's closest to the orange) and I know that it's the rotten one.

Try to prove that one wrong, Pom!

[ilyaslamasse]

i don't have to prove you wrong, you're cheating. I said 1 and only weighing. Taking oranges off the scale would count as 2, not 1.

Actually, I said 5, but I could have said 20 baskets.

pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

That's the cleverness in it all! I'm not actually doing 2 weighings, I'm... Well, I suppose it's debatable.

For the love of god, just give us the answer, then.

[Phil Jayhan]

Dittos

[ilyaslamasse]

I forgot to say something important. 1 regular orange weights 100 gramms. Thus a rotten one 110 gramms. Awfully sorry guys, I only just noticed. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">
pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

Whatever. Just give us the answer. I can't figure it out.

[Phil Jayhan]

After all this time you just come out with neccessary and important information?

Tis too late to try again. Diito what live said; Answer now please! We have waited long enough.

pj

[ilyaslamasse]

Truely sorry guys. So here it is. Since you can't focus on the weight of the darn oranges, you have to focus on the difference of weight. That's why you'll take 1 orange from the first basket, 2 from the second, 3 from the third and so on.
You'll have 1+2+3+4+5=15 oranges. I all of them were normal, it should weight 15*100= 1500 grams. Now if the weight is 1510 grams, it means that only one orange is rotten, hence it's the 1st basket. If the weight is 1520...

THere !!!

pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

Oh.

That makes sense.

...

Welp...

Who's next?

[ilyaslamasse]

I never noticed your little line. I don't know what to think about it.

pom 0]

[liveacoustic]

Little line?

Y'mean "Insignificant, really."?

[ilyaslamasse]

Yep. I don't know what to think about mine either...
Makes me think that I have to find another enigma...

pom 0]

[I am not Jubba]

mines pretty straight forward.

[Phil Jayhan]

Hmmm, sounds pretty simple, i am surprised I didn't see it. Insignificant really, is cute, Jubba is self explanatory (he thinks hes old when he's 19, ok...)Wake up Neo...Thats got a little bit of Euro class. Flashhopper? gotto get that changed soon. I did almost an entire site in Dreamweaver today. Pretty simple layout and about 100 links thus far, it was pretty simple. 12 hours our so. Most of it was just laying out the tables and figuring out how they operate, they are tricky little @#%$ er's. I got the idea to do this when the argument flared, this way no one can talk back to me, disagree or anything... Doh! :lol:

pj
;)

[I am not Jubba]

ha, fossil man you mean...ooooh ok...i was confused. I don't mean that I'm old, I plan on majoring in Archaeology, thats where the whole fossil thing comes from.

[liveacoustic]

The long version is "Insignificant in the grand scheme of things, really", but I wasn't allowed being that long.

When I first read Pom's I thought it was a diet joke until I saw the full thing on the "Custom Titles" board and realised it was a Star Craft joke. To be honest, I thought it was funnier when I thought it was a diet joke.