Actionscript battle

[pom]

Anyone wants to have a scripting battle with me? All code, just you and the drawing api.

I suggest we limit the number of lines in this, and the best way to do that seems to be to limit the file size. 1 ko should be enough.

Anyone interested?

pom :phil:

[morse]

Whoa man, battle against you? I would be crushed!

[senocular]

Im in :)

[lostinbeta]

I am NOT in, I don't need my "ego" crushed at such an early age, this is going to be an AMAZING battle is Ilyas and Sen are in it.

[senocular]

:!: lost!

what if I ... only use 3 lines of code?

[lostinbeta]

Well that would just hurt my "ego" even more because you would beat me into submission with 3 lines of code :P

[senocular]

Ill just not enter and instead help you with your submittion and understanding it all better (then secretly take all the credit when you win :evil: ) ... who said that?

[lostinbeta]

You should enter, but still help me understand it all better!

[morse]

How about its open source after the battle is done ?

[senocular]

Originally posted by morse
How about its open source after the battle is done ?

All AS battles should be ;)

[Kitiara]

I'm not quite ready to have my AS skills beaten into submission quite yet, so I'll pass too. But I might be able to think up an interesting topic for you to attempt... :)

[senocular]

ok, how about AS tennis? Did this a few times back in WH. Start off with a single FLA, one person adds 10 or so lines of code, passes it on, next person adds 10 or so lines... passes it on.. etc etc etc. No winer or losers, just an evolved, shared project which can either be amazing or quite odd, but none the less, interesting, fun, engaging, and great to learn from as you get to see the source of each person's submittion - not only what was done to get the achieved effect, but also organization and coding styles.

:q:

[pom]

That sounds fun :)

But I'd really like to battle :bad: And people don't be shy or too modest (lost, Kit, Morse, whoever) battles are for fun, and Sen is going to crush me too after all...

[lostinbeta]

im THINKING about it, but I still don't know. I have NO ideas of what to make, and I such at optimizing and creating efficient coding, and creating things out of just AS and with a limited amount of lines kind of scares me because I don't know if I can do that either.

Hmmmm :( I am unsure what to do here.

[pom]

Come on... :evil:

Kit, can you give us a subject? And please, no plants, or "round things" :hangover:

[Kitiara]

Rats. :)

Just scripting then? No symbols?

<b>*Thinks*</b>

[senocular]

just so you know. Im not creative. I just know how to make things work :) It wouldnt be hard to beat me aesthetically.

[Kitiara]

Ah, but an AS battle is about the beauty of the code. :)

How about... Um... A vortex? Like a funnel... Script that with Flash.

[lostinbeta]

Kit: http://www.kirupa.com/lab/tornado.htm

[pom]

I like the vortex idea. A bit cliché :cyborg: but it's definitely more doable than a mouse (!!!).

[kode]

interesting... give me a good subject and i'll think about it :P =)
Originally posted by lostinbeta
im THINKING about it, but I still don't know. I have NO ideas of what to make, and I such at optimizing and creating efficient coding, and creating things out of just AS and with a limited amount of lines kind of scares me because I don't know if I can do that either.

Hmmmm :( I am unsure what to do here.
trust your instincts!! :P said like Peppy Hare in Star Fox

[senocular]

here are some thoughts:

- blooming flower
- effervescent amorphism ( probably round :!: )
- organ function simulations
- zoetic cubism
- landscape terraforming
- hyperspace
- ... TROGDOR!!!!

[lostinbeta]

effervescent amorphism - what?

zoetic cubism - what?

TROGDOR!!!! - WHAT!?!?

[kode]

ditto :P :P

[senocular]

effervescent amorphism - light, floating-like amorphic shapes - shapes which have no definite form and are just like... like wobbly bubbles floating in a spring breeze :nerd:

zoetic cubism - cubism mimicing or in some way pertaining to 'life' - cubism being a rigid 20th century art form (ignited by Pablo Picasso) using alot of hard edged geometry and abstraction.
Some cubist paintings include
The Ladies of Avignon (http://www.cwru.edu/artsci/engl/VSALM/mod/jung/resources/picasso.JPG)
and
Portrait of Daniel-Henry Kahnweiler (http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Images/picasso-cubist-portrait.jpg)
One obviously more abstract than the other

and then there's
TROGDOR!!! (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html)
(and TROGDOR!!! the game! (http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html))

[pom]

I like the landscape and the hyperspace because they're the only ones I understand... And blooming flower I understand too, but please no plants :crazy:

[kode]

hmmm... i'd take one of these =)

- effervescent amorphism
- landscape terraforming
- hyperspace

... or
- TROGDOR!!! :P jk

[lostinbeta]

Ack.. such advanced topics..... lack of confidence in skills... dunno if I should enter..... undecided....... headache.... must........... think........

[Alex]

oh come on lost, enter, you have nothing to loose if you do enter. lol your really good at flash and i think that you should enter.

No pain no gain.... lol

[senocular]

yeah, see, Alex IS in... you should be too ;)

[Alex]

Originally posted by senocular
yeah, see, Alex IS in... you should be too ;)


i am???:sigh: :hangover:

[pom]

So what will it be? :) Could be a nice thing that a non-scripter mod gives us a theme.

[lostinbeta]

Yeah, we should have a third-party non-scripter mod help decided the theme.

I am going to TRY and do this battle, hopefully I can do SOMETHING. But I think I got up enough guts right now to say that I am in.

Ok, so participants thusfar are...

Ilyas
Sen
<B>Alex</B>
Me
You forgot KAX, lost... :) //pom

:P

[kode]

Originally edited by ilyaslamasse
You forgot KAX, lost... :) //pom
:( :-\

[lostinbeta]

Oh, I didn't know you were in for sure, you said you would think about it didn't you?

[kode]

well, yeah... but when i say i'll think about it, it really means that i'm in :sigh: :P ;)

[lostinbeta]

Oh, well I am not a mind reader, and I didn't know that :P :trout:

Alrighty. "W00t!"

[kode]

Originally posted by lostinbeta
Oh, well I am not a mind reader...
i am... and i will steal your project for the battle :bad: :P

ok then. a non scripter mod give us the theme? =)

[lostinbeta]

Steal my project? Id be lucky to even come up with one that works :P

[kode]

:P

come on... don't be so modest. you know you're good ;) =)

[Alex]

if i compete, i would get my arse handed to me.

and i do not have anything to enter....

[Freddythunder]

I don't really belong in here. I'm at work and was jumping around the forums. I had to chime in. I could be your third party. I say...
Trogdor...
;)

[lostinbeta]

Only mods can offically finalize rules and themes.

[senocular]

TROGDOR!!!!

:screams:

TROGDOR!!!

bunrinating all the peasants.... TROGDOR!!!

[fluid_0ne]

can i also take a part???
i just want to try... cuz i know i'll lose ;)

[pom]

Has every mod out there left the Battle area?? :(

[lostinbeta]

No clue.... :-\

[Law]

if the subject is something i might be able to do i'll enter

[teed]

i rekcon you should have to craete a graphic program like paint :p

[pom]

Right. Or maybe develop a whole rendering program like 3DSMax. Are you ready, people? Let's get going!

[teed]

ok start NOW!!!

[lostinbeta]

Nothing is finalized yet Ilyas :P

We need a third party mod. And a definite theme. And a document size, etc, etc.

[pom]

I was joking :beam:

[lostinbeta]

Oh.. oops :blush:

[kode]

ok... i say pom is out of the battle so he can be our third party mod :P ;)

[lostinbeta]

LOL, good way to eliminate the competition, but since this is going to be open source, I say Ilyas stays in and I be our 3rd party mod :P

That way people get the good stuff :P

[pom]

Originally posted by kax
ok... i say pom is out of the battle so he can be our third party mod :P ;) GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

[kode]

Originally posted by lostinbeta
That way people get the good stuff :P
hmmm... that's a good point ;)

and
Originally posted by lostinbeta
I say Ilyas stays in and I be our 3rd party mod :P
that's not an option here... you'll be in the battle whether you like it or not!! :bad: :P

[kode]

Originally posted by ilyaslamasse
GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
ok. you can participate... but will you let me win? :beam: :P

[Alex]

can i post my 3d cube thing??? thats all i have that might have a fighting chance. im really pressed for time right now, between my web site, and school work.

[nobody]

*cough*TROGDOR*cough*
sorry, couldn't resist

You guys have a fun little competetion, i can't wait to see who gets burninated. You guys should do that adding to code thingy too.. i saw that on the bit forums.. that was neeto

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by Alex
can i post my 3d cube thing??? thats all i have that might have a fighting chance. im really pressed for time right now, between my web site, and school work.

Nope Alex, that was tweens... this is an <B>Actionscript</B> battle ;) ;)

[Alex]

ah man, count me out then, im horriable at action scripting, but im reading tutorial to try an get better, so can you please take me off of the list, sorry.

[pom]

Originally posted by kax
ok. you can participate... but will you let me win? :beam: :P Sure :sure:


:evil:

[fluid_0ne]

so what's the theme???

[Law]

something easy i hope

[Jasninder]

I m seriously lost, I dont know where to view this battle :(

[lostinbeta]

You don't view it, once the battle is finalized, all participants have a certain time period to create something that fits the theme of the battle.

When the deadline is up, we submit our works, then a poll is created for people to vote.

You don't win anything if you win a battle, battles are just friendly competition to compare skills and learn a thing or two from others as well.

[teed]

lol i dont see why you cant make a paint thing. mine is really wierd at the mo but i should be able to fix it up.

[lostinbeta]

Because it is an actionscript battle.

Do you know how hard it would be to make an entire paint application through just AS with no symbols in the library or on the stage???

Definitely too much work for a battle.

[teed]

hmm.ah ok i thought u were allowed to use symbols

very sorry

[lostinbeta]

Oh... nope... no symbols, just the drawing API in Flash MX and some functions and prototypes, etc, etc.

[teed]

oh god that would be very hard, well depending on what you have to make i will join or not

[kode]

we need a mod! we need a theme! we need someone who can beat pom and sen!! :P

[Alex]

where is eg? mabey he could beat them. i sure cant. lol

[morse]

I think we should be alloud to have simple shapes (like circles or squares) in the library (or on stage, but off to the side). Then I would enter. Oh, and if I were to get 0 votes, then dont bother saying I entered in the battle winner's thread.

[pom]

Originally posted by kax
we need a mod! we need a theme! we need someone who can beat pom and sen!! :P We need Bit :) He would most definitely kick our butts ;(

And I'll spam the mods for a theme, don't worry :evil:

[kode]

Originally posted by ilyaslamasse
We need Bit :) He would most definitely kick our butts ;(
yup... i agree :P he's amazing =)
Originally posted by ilyaslamasse
And I'll spam the mods for a theme, don't worry :evil:
:P good idea!! ;)

[ahmed]

how about a hand writing recognition app kind of thing.. that would be really cool.. but very hard i guess :-\

[eyezberg]

exists already, can post the fla if you want ;)

[Guig0]

by all means do it eyez! =)

[kode]

ditto ;) =)

[eyezberg]

As it's very popular and always asked for, how about
"who CODES the nicest clock, analog or digital" ?
-date
-dynamic textfield creation
-drawing api
...

[ahmed]

eyezberg-
wow i never realized it'd be possible to make one, though it would be extremely hard. post the fla if you dont mind :)

[lostinbeta]

Its totally possible :)

But of course that would involve drawing circles :hangover:

[fluid_0ne]

lost - tip:
math: r^2 = (x-a)^2+(y-b)^2;
smth^2 = smth * smth

clear???


btw
what's the code line limit or size limit???

[lostinbeta]

I already have code for making a circle in Flash (thanks Sen :P) from a while back.

But if all of us just to standard circles for shapes of the watch, it would be kinda hard to tell whose entry is better because they will all be the same.


Not to mention the circular position of the numbers on the watch...

[fluid_0ne]

and who told you that clock must be oval???

[lostinbeta]

Im saying... to create different looking entries, they must all look different, meaning we can't just use basic shapes, we will need to be creative in the design of it, and if you have every used the drawing API, you may know that it is not as easy to use as the the actual drawing tools in Flash.

[fluid_0ne]

i know, but it's fun!

sample:

_x = Stage.width/2;
_y = Stage.height/2;
function flower(trg, i, k) {
var mc = trg.createEmptyMovieClip("kwiat"+i, -i);
mc.beginFill(0x330066) and mc.curveTo(k*3, 0, k*3, k*3) and mc.curveTo(0, k*3, 0, 0) and mc.endFill();
mc.beginFill(0xCC9900) and mc.curveTo(k*2.8, 0, k*2.8, k*2.8) and mc.curveTo(0, k*2.8, 0, 0) and mc.endFill();
mc._rotation = _root.j*60;
}
for (j=2; j<70; j++) flower(_root, j, j);
_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
_rotation -= 1;
}

just a sample (i'm learning 4 3 days now...)

[lostinbeta]

nice ;)

[fluid_0ne]

rot = random(3599);
_x = Stage.width/2;
_y = Stage.height/2;
function flower(trg, i, k) {
var mc = trg.createEmptyMovieClip("kwiat"+i, -i);
mc.beginFill(0x330022) and mc.curveTo(k*3, 0, k*3, k*3) and mc.curveTo(0, k*3, 0, 0) and mc.endFill();
mc.beginFill(0xCC9900) and mc.curveTo(k*2.8, 0, k*2.8, k*2.8) and mc.curveTo(k, -k, 0, 0) and mc.endFill();
mc._rotation = _root.j*_root.rot;
mc.onEnterFrame = function() {
_rotation -= .01;
};
}
for (j=2; j<90; j++) {
flower(_root, j, j);
}
_root.onMouseDown = function() {
rot = random(3599);
for (j=2; j<90; j++) {
flower(_root, j, j);
}
};


click 4 change...

still need some work...

[morse]

Too bad I have no clue what-so-ever about whats goin on!

[eyezberg]

Erm...looking for the fla guys, I have to many zips from all over the net, and don't remember the name of this one, so i goota open all the likely ones and check..sorry, but won't be too long..
While waiting, check an example for a scripted clock from www.sephiroth.it ..

[lostinbeta]

Hehe, Keith Peters did something like that a long long time ago :) Its cool.

[eyezberg]

Ok, found it..weird name, that's why i couldn't find it..
There you go (works a bit like graphity thing on palms..draw the letter...I think i saw the patterns to draw somewhere..I'll have a look..

[ahmed]

wow.. thanks for the file :) it's so neat.. it's simpler than i though :) (not to say that it isnt complicated)

[pom]

fluid >> Nice. I knew I had seen your name somewhere when you posted at Bit-101 :)

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by eyezberg
As it's very popular and always asked for, how about
"who CODES the nicest clock, analog or digital" ?
-date
-dynamic textfield creation
-drawing api
...

Ok, well we kinda got off topic here (my fault, sorry)

Is this what we are doing? If so, when is the due date and what is the canvas size we will be working on?

[Law]

does anyone know any good api tutorials

[fluid_0ne]

can i suggest theme???

if yes - then REMIX ;)
rules: i give you my fla and you remake it as good as U can. g00d???

[kidoo]

Originally posted by lostinbeta
Ok, well we kinda got off topic here (my fault, sorry)

Is this what we are doing? If so, when is the due date and what is the canvas size we will be working on?

hi Sen. swy i'm late.. (dude should tell ya ol' friend) :cyborg:

i think your ideas are coolest. Landscape sounds better than a clock!

..also what about mandelbrots ..there's one in google (mandelbrot.swf) ..we could build up from the default brot. size is 150 x 150 -- how's that sound for a base code?

[ahmed]

Originally posted by Law
does anyone know any good api tutorials this one here (http://www.flashdevils.com/tutorials.php?id=142) got me started.. :)

[pom]

Landscape is nice. Landscape is fun. I like landscape. Anyone disagrees with that?

[lostinbeta]

Ilyas: Since no other mod is apparently paying attention, I declare you official mod of this battle, it seems that will be the only way we can get this battle started.

Ok, I have no problems with landscapes. As I said before, I can't say for sure if I will be able to submit an entry, but I will give it a whirl and if I can come up with something I will submit it :)


So Ilyas, whats the canvas size we will be working at? Any specific FPS rate? Whens the due date?

[upuaut]

. you guys are mad. :) in a good way.

I look forward to hearing this.. lines of code.. that's the important part. What is the limitation?

[upuaut]

oh I see.. 1k.. eeek

that's pretty sick POM... considering that
I'd be happy to be a 3rd party judge, if it's still needed.

[Law]

thanks ahmed

[senocular]

Originally posted by kidoo
hi Sen. swy i'm late.. (dude should tell ya ol' friend) :cyborg:

i think your ideas are coolest. Landscape sounds better than a clock!

..also what about mandelbrots ..there's one in google (mandelbrot.swf) ..we could build up from the default brot. size is 150 x 150 -- how's that sound for a base code?

KIDOO!!!!
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~tmccau1/images/smilies/bigsmile.gif

;) This thing really hasnt gotten off the ground yet... But you're right, I probably wouldnt have gotten around to letting you know - not because I wouldnt want you to know, I just wouldnt have thought of it! Its been so long since we did something like this before, ya know ;) Glad you found this!

[kidoo]

is this a volley collaboration, or a bit-101 style competition?

[senocular]

I dont think they dig the volley here... they want competition :-\

[kidoo]

I:-) oh - does that mean we have to work independantly and redundantly on the same project??

i'm alread flat out re-inventing the wheel... ha-ha

well, is it a hard and fast rule, or is it all in the wording?

i guess you mean each volley takes 1 post, and look, we're
already on page 8 and hardly started - lol

what happens if we post our zip and edit our post to say "yes; updated on DD-MM-YY."

:A+:

[Guig0]

Originally posted by senocular
I dont think they dig the volley here... they want competition :-\
hey sen, you never gave us that possibility ;)


i think volley is great, like kidoo said we don´t have to re-invent the weel... let´s give it a try, shall we?



go go go kidoo!

[pom]

It's not about reinventing the wheel, it's about implementing your own wheel :)

Guig0 >> I think Sen mentionned this at the beginning but it got submerged by chit-chat.

kidoo >> Bit's rules where fine but they showed their limits pretty fast. The file size seems to be the only thing you can't tamper with, so I say we agree on a file size (1ko is comfortable). Everyone agrees?

Everybody >> I like that volley idea :) How about opening another thread for this?

pom :phil:

[kidoo]

kidoo >> Bit's rules where fine but they showed their limits pretty fast.

i've tried to move Bit's rules half way towards Sen's rules, whilst keeping your own "code only" rule - which is my personal favorite too. That also keeps the filesize small.

Bit's was a simple 25 lines MAX per program - code only competition - everyone coding seperately - anything goes!

But in Sen's version we could append 5 or so lines of code, and 1 element of new graphics per volley - but they had to be based on the shapes that Sen had started with. That was the funny part :crazy:

[senocular]

we had a couple of different ones... some were code only, others were using the simple shapes... one we did which just went crazy (Ill have to try to find a version) I think might have been size based... where you can only add so much Kb per go? There were a bunch of images thrown in and a teletubby with some kind of machine gun on a scooter shooting the sun or something lol it was a mess. It was fun though... lemme see if I cant find that one

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~tmccau1/flash/werehere2/tennis01.html

lol

[senocular]

well I suggest if we do this, it should be opened in a new thread as not to mess with whats planned here (non-volley comp.) Then, the thread starter, whether it be you or me (or whoever) can update the first post with each addition in a single [as] block making it easier to snag to throw in a FLA.... each sequential addition of course still being posted in a new post but the combination in the first post will make it easier to copy all at once. An updated attachment could also be added for the duration of the play though the code would remain indefinitely even if the attachment is no long available.

[kidoo]

kewl, that'll work really well.

i'll set up a new thread, and post a few times to leave enough room for the entire [as] of about 50kb for 5 or more participants.

btw, what's that 1ko?

[pom]

Woohoo!! :) And yes, sorry, 1 ko is the French for 1 kb :beam:

Sen >> Nice *thing* you've got there :P