Vector Illustration & a 'Hello'

[CkretAjint]

Hello everyone, this would be my first post on this site. I was browsing around for flash help sites since I am in the process of redoing my website to be more user friendly (and smaller file size). Mostly I do Vector Illustrations and photo manipulations as a Graphic Designer. Look for my site to come up soon. Here is an illustration to hold you over till then:

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/Porsche-997-Webpost.jpg


Enjoy, and C&C are welcome.



EDIT: Outline images, screen shot of layers, and close up images are all on page 3. About half way down.

[farsite]

Welcome to the forums, and wow, great work.

[Rainman]

That's amazing. I'm not much of a vector person myself, but I like this one! :D
Good luck building your new site!

[Tommy_S]

Yeah, nice image. Lol, I also draw such things (and in this style) 2 years ago. :) Welcome on board.

[CkretAjint]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys. Hopefully my site comes together quickly. it has been a while since I have made a flash site, probably a little under a year.

Tommy_S, nice site you have. I like you illustrations. Although yours are more stylistic, i try to go more realistic to push the envelope that much farther almost tricking the eye. Thanks for the good replies :)


Thanks, Tom

[mprzybylski]

very nice. only crit i would have is the red part on the rotors (? i don't know anything about car parts :\), it looks like someone bled to death on them.

did you use mostly gradients or gradient mesh?

[CkretAjint]

Neither.

It is 100% shapes wth solid colors. All hand placed without ANY auto tracing. every last bit of the image, body panels, lights, interior, rims, tires, everything. I am learning how to use gradient meshes now, but I get more control out of the colors with individual shapes. I will post an outline version later.

and the calipers are supposed to be red, they are poweder coated that color. Porache red.

[Tommy_S]

Porsche prolly?

[CkretAjint]

whoops, yeah Porsche. just typed it too fast and didnt check the spelling. My bad.

[Ryall]

Very nice work... if you did that without mesh's then my hats off to you. Learn them well, once you do it'll take your work to a whole new level, Im excited to see where you go with them as you learn.

Welcome to the forums.

Peace


Just wondering: Since you didnt use any mesh's... how many layers are in there?!

[mdipi]

Great job! I agree with the break on the front disk is a bit big, but otherwise its very well done!

Welcome to the forums!

[Digitalosophy]

Very nice :thumb:

[B3NKobe]

You & Vector = BRILLIANT!! :thumb:

[REEF·]

I'd sure like to drive that :thumb2:. Fantastic.

[.soulty]

hey dude welcome to the forums! :)

Regarding the porsche the front/side indicators black stroke is a little too thick and i think the brake discs and calipers could improve with shading (depth) other than that a really nice job :thumb:

I too have created a illustrator car using just shapes and variation of shades (greyscale) also before illustrator had transparency, lol. (illustrator 9)

[MEvsYOU]

That's cool dude.. check this vector girl out as well.
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/9338/vectorgirl7qj.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[eurosickwitit]

var impressive:Vector = new Vector("ur porsche");

[Limitlis]

Awesome work man. Hey so when do we get to see a preview of your site?

[_this]

cool
:D

[Jeff Wheeler]

Wow. You're absolutely incredible! Great job, it's absolutely perfect as far as I'm concerned.

I don't mean to get a debate started, but why do you come to Flash for a user-friendly site?

[B3NKobe]

Mate: Your vector skills are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet as, keep it up, they look fantastic!!

:D:D:D

[imark]

Very nice porche, excellent work.

Also mad props to MeVsYou, very nice work. It almost looks like it's foggy, cool illusion.

[G]

dam nice :)

[fasterthanlight™]

RE: Front calipers being too big

--I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be because when you brake all the weight shifts to the front, and ultimately, over the front wheels, bigger brakes = better stopping power. I could be wrong though, Porsche's engines are in the back...

[mprzybylski]

well the front caliper looks too big, the back one is fine. im aware that the calipers are red, and i have no problem with that, just a bit big on the front one is all.

and now that soulty mentioned it, that stroke for the front light is relatively big as well. maybe it would look better like a darker yellow, not full black?

[von_dragon]

Man that is soooo good, at first i thought u were just posting a real photo. lol amazing work keep it up. :thumb:

[imark]

Too much caliper talk :te:

[Sliker_Hawk]

... Mighjt just be me, but i think the shadow's too dark, and it doesn't look like there's any tyres.

Other than that, great job!

[theflash]

good one ... I didnt realize it's vector at first :)

[freeskier89]

Thats absolutely sweet! Nice job.

[trundrumbalind]

Yeah, nice image. Lol, I also draw such things (and in this style) 2 years ago. :) Welcome on board.
Sorry Tommy, but that's it--I really think that sometimes you can be such a contrascending a-hole. You never like to fully complement someone and even in this post, you said "nice image" but you couldn't just leave it at that--you have to say "2 years ago" as if everyone else is below you and you're the best and everyone else "could do better" and I think a lot of other people on these forums know it too and would agree with me.

People have actually said on the Critiques forum that they dread hearing from you. Just because you've created a style for KirupaForum and had an award, it doesn't give you the right to make yourself out to be some kind of a god.

I've never heard you give someone a straight-out "brilliant work, i really like it" kind of post. You'll say "nice work" but you always have to put in a proverbial "but i could do better" and sometimes I really resent you for that.

I don't mean to be out of line and I'd be shocked if I was banned for this as I've thought this through, given examples and haven't just exploded and been unreasonable so I hope some people will maybe realise that.

[Jeff Wheeler]

I agree with you.

[Vexir]

I concur but its really not that big of a deal...

On the other hand, what is a big deal, is that I can't remmeber what footer of XXVIII's nokrev is talking about in HIS footer! :scream:

[Jeff Wheeler]

I'm talkking about the one where it said his blog pees. :(

[mpnaz]

that looks amazingly realistic...

[CkretAjint]

Thank you for all the feedback guys. I will try to modify it some to look 'better' but I dont wanna change it to much form the original. Just my 'style' of doing things.


Sorry Tommy, but that's it--I really think that sometimes you can be such a contrascending a-hole. You never like to fully complement someone and even in this post, you said "nice image" but you couldn't just leave it at that--you have to say "2 years ago" as if everyone else is below you and you're the best and everyone else "could do better" and I think a lot of other people on these forums know it too and would agree with me.

I saw that but just let it roll off my back. Although he says he did things like that "2 years ago" nothing on his site is remotely close to being as detailed as that. But to each there own. Thats what marks art so great. Everyone has their own style and influences which lets us create art in differetn ways.

Anwho, here is the outline image I promissed. Sorry for being so late. There are 1144 Paths, and a total of 6844 points, only 2 compound shapes, and 24 transparent objects. All hand placed of course. Enjoy

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/Porsche-997-Webpost-Lines.jpg

And here are the Layers (Screen shot), there are sub layers as well. Like the front wheel is broken down into Tire, Rim, Rotor, Caliper, wheel well, Rim fill in, etc.

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Porsche_Layers.jpg

Also, here are 2 close Ups for you guys, Color and Outlines.

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Colors.jpghttp://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Outlines.jpg

[Jeff Wheeler]

WOW

You're making me want to throw away Illustrator :(

[Tocksiq]

very nice work man....lovin it how long did this take?? a decade??

[CkretAjint]

Wow. You're absolutely incredible! Great job, it's absolutely perfect as far as I'm concerned.

I don't mean to get a debate started, but why do you come to Flash for a user-friendly site?

Thanks for the feed back. I came here for inspiration. My old site, that I never put 'online' was SO huge, it could only be mailed out as a demo of my work to potential clients. It was around 12mb with images and animation. Took a long time, IMO, to download. So I am looking to make a much smaller file size site that is more user friendly.


This illustrations took about 25-35 hours.

[ave]

Great work, but first off can i be really thick and say ... what program did you use, was it illustrator or fireworks or something ??
And how did you get the lines so accurately in proportion without tracing ANYTHING or at least using an image as reference ??

Not knocking or doubting you, just pretty baffled how u got it so accurate.

And the pic of the girl (whoever posted that) thats amazing, really good, can you guys point me in the way of a good tute on achieveing this sort of vector art ?

[CkretAjint]

I used Adobe Illustrator 10. And i did use an image for reference. Always use reference images for projects you do. Then your not left guessing what should go where, and it wont look funky.

[beamond]

cool. i didnt know that vectors had this capability. i'd be interested to see the outlines.

[CkretAjint]

cool. i didnt know that vectors had this capability. i'd be interested to see the outlines.


See above, about 5 posts.

[ave]

Cool, so im guessing you kinda trace over the image in illustrator making all the many shapes which make up the shading..

Regardless how it was done, hats off to you, its a great job.

I only use PS really but might have a go at illustrator now ive seen an example of what it is capable of.

[leftside]

amazing :thumb2: piece of work!

[khaleel]

ABSOLUTLEY FANTASTIC!!!

[Nick]

Very Nice - I can never do that! I thought it was a real pic at first.

[coolhand]

Dude! That is gorgeous. I have seen VERY little vector artwork that comes close to being photorealistic. I'm sure it took you a lot of time and it shows. Well, your time was well spent because I'd consider this a masterpice. Keep it up - you've got a great future ahead of you! :beer:

[Pierce Bronkite]

Very pimp! Like it a lot. I would be intrested to see more of your work.

[bleach20xx]

illustrator 9 didn't have transparency? for some reason, I feel like I have to disagree...

btw, very nice illustration. reminds me of something one of my friends did once. your's is better though :P

[flashdick]

:thumb2: impressive

[Jasninder]

Welcome to the forum man, great work, can u teach me some of illustrator :blush:
:lol: kidding but tht'd be great, i love the details.

[nobody]

I'd just like to say.. as an aspiring vector artist myself it's nice to see works of art like this presented by nice guys like you. Not only is your image beautiful but you go so far as to show us lines details and various close ups. Though I'm sure I could have figured out how to do something like this I think it's great that you explain how, so as to allow others to aspire to something similar. I fully intend on creating a semi photo-realistic car of some sort in the near future now.

So thanks man, keep it up :beam:

[bodyvisual]

very nice work, great attention to detail.

:p:

[getter]

All of your websites are so good! I'm a web designer but not as great as you all. I'm trying to get some flash into one of my sites.

Nice Porsche by the way, i'll drive it anyday no matter how big those breaks car, just make sure they work thanx :)

[Tommy_S]

Hm... OK, thanx for that. Wasn't expecting from you such words... If someone thinks that I'm the god here, because of the award and the skin\style I made for the Forum, and because of "I can do better", OK, then, please DON'T ask me for critique, DON'T ask me to help you. Don't PM me, forget me. And also one thing, those who REALLY know me, remember me saying "Great work. I like this design. This site, a lot, etc."

[Mik3]

Wow, this is amazing.

[hudz]

amaaziingg...

[CkretAjint]

Thank you eveyone for all of the positive feedback. I am glad I can share my talents with you. I am hoping one day that I can do vector illustrations full time. But it is hard finding people that are willing to pay for this style.

But none the less, people asked for more, so you get more:

Not as detialed as the first one. I did this one before the porsche. and right now I am working on an image of Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl (from the movie) I will post it once I am done. but it is taking a long time due to the hair. Look for it in the near future.

C&C are always welcome.



2,683 Paths. 16,578 Points. Only 6 Transparent objects and 22 Gradients (mostly the windows). Again, this was created without any filters of any kind, or any tracing program. All points were hand placed and manipulated and then each individual vector shape was hand colored.

Color:

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Opel%20Vectra%20OPC-Colors-Web.jpg


Outlines:

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Opel%20Vectra%20OPC-Outlines-Web.jpg


Layers:

http://www.zx2-riders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10155/normal_Layers%20Image.jpg

[Jeff Wheeler]

WOW!

That's amazing!

[jnstevens87]

In my opinion, the Opel illustration is infinetly cooler than the Porsche. It's hard to believe it's vector because it's got this kinda hand drawn, colored pencil look to it. I've seen too many uber realistic car vectors, and I'm sick of them. I appreciate the hard work that goes into one, but my tastes have changed. And they are mostly of exotic supercars. Why can't someone do a vector of a beat up rusty 57 chevy pickup. I'd love to see some close up pictues of the Opel.

[Pasquale]

I love it! Uber!, if you learnt to model stuff in 3d, you'd be :thumb: even more awsome! can't wait 2 see your site!

[SAVAGER]

wow... very impressed... good work

[glosrfc]

That is very good...the detail in the headlamps is quite astonishing.
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[MadDog 555]

did you do that all in photoshop? if so, how (in a basic sumary)?

austin

[CkretAjint]

did you do that all in photoshop? if so, how (in a basic sumary)?

austin

no it was all done in Adobe Illustrator 10

[nobody]

That's sick. I love the green. Awesome work :)
Looking forward to the batwoman pic

[harlcon]

wow great job!!

[Oli-G]

Really nice man, care to share a little about your process? Both in a broader sense, from preparation etc to final tweaking, and also how you do linear things such as the grille etc, especially if it distorts?

[Mik3]

WHAOWHAOWHAO!!!!!!!!!

[icio]

That's really great work, and that outline image make it even more impressive !

with regards to your site, i'd recommend a simple flash preloading gallery, and something for the user to read whilst the image loads might be a good idea too.

fantastic work :thumb:

[zacus]

very impressive, id like to see some of your other work, do u use photoshop or 3d progs at all, or just do stuff in Illustrator?


PS: welcome :P

[icio]

Sorry Tommy, but that's it--I really think that sometimes you can be such a contrascending a-hole. You never like to fully complement someone and even in this post, you said "nice image" but you couldn't just leave it at that--you have to say "2 years ago" as if everyone else is below you and you're the best and everyone else "could do better" and I think a lot of other people on these forums know it too and would agree with me.

People have actually said on the Critiques forum that they dread hearing from you. Just because you've created a style for KirupaForum and had an award, it doesn't give you the right to make yourself out to be some kind of a god.

I've never heard you give someone a straight-out "brilliant work, i really like it" kind of post. You'll say "nice work" but you always have to put in a proverbial "but i could do better" and sometimes I really resent you for that.

I don't mean to be out of line and I'd be shocked if I was banned for this as I've thought this through, given examples and haven't just exploded and been unreasonable so I hope some people will maybe realise that.
battle battle battle

[Zach-E2]

sweet illustration!

[ANEWIDEACo]

how did you do it? from scrach?

[Pierce Bronkite]

CkretAjint, just curious whats the first part of the car that you start with? Do you draw the basick outline of the car and the basic shapes, ie hood, windows, wheels and then fill in the details? What is your process?

[CkretAjint]

CkretAjint, just curious whats the first part of the car that you start with? Do you draw the basick outline of the car and the basic shapes, ie hood, windows, wheels and then fill in the details? What is your process?

Just pick an area and start outlining all the color variations. Normally I try and do the lower portions on the cars first, like wheels and fenders then doors and just work my way around till it is all done. Also, only do about 2-3 hours a day, that way I come back to it fresh each day and start on it and i have to make changes from the previous day I can right away without being to far in advanced. Also dont be afraid to start over on an area if you must.

[Nirfmo]

i really like these drawings, good work dude

[hl]

sexual kitty man!

//random outburst of awesomeness

[Pierce Bronkite]

Just pick an area and start outlining all the color variations. Normally I try and do the lower portions on the cars first, like wheels and fenders then doors and just work my way around till it is all done. Also, only do about 2-3 hours a day, that way I come back to it fresh each day and start on it and i have to make changes from the previous day I can right away without being to far in advanced. Also dont be afraid to start over on an area if you must.

Thanks for the reply. With an illustration that big and detailed I always wondered what people first start with.

[Vexir]

Hey, it just occured to me, you could get the same effect really easy by just using LiveTrace with a setting of Color-64 :)

[jay-em]

Hey, it just occured to me, you could get the same effect really easy by just using LiveTrace with a setting of Color-64 :)


I was thinking the same thing, but my tactfulness would not allow me to say it aloud. :mu:

[CkretAjint]

Hey, it just occured to me, you could get the same effect really easy by just using LiveTrace with a setting of Color-64 :)

Go ahead try it, guarenteed you wouldn't get the same detail. Besides, I dont even own livetrace any any similar program.

[Oli-G]

I was thinking the same thing, but my tactfulness would not allow me to say it aloud. :mu:

Ahhh baloney! I think a lot of the functionality of vector programs would have then been rendered useless if that was the case ;).

As with anything handmade, cars, houses, etc, I don't see traces ever producing something with the character nor aesthetic refinement of a hand done trace...

[Vexir]

Go ahead try it, guarenteed you wouldn't get the same detail. Besides, I dont even own livetrace any any similar program.

Livetrace is an illustrator cs2 feature. And you're right, but I can sure get pretty darn close :P

[CkretAjint]

Livetrace is an illustrator cs2 feature. And you're right, but I can sure get pretty darn close :P

I dont have CS2, i only have 10 at home, and CS at work. and since I am not SUPPOSED to do these drawings at work, I only work on 10 :P

thanks for all the feed back guys.

[porpous2]

Although i hardly even post on these forums now adays, this work of yours has made me. I am amazed, the images of both cars are unbelievably detailed and, not only did you do some beautiful work but you also explained how. I cant wait to see the batgirl image. By the way, you stated how not many people are willing to pay for this work. Your images are so great that i think you should try some tshirts and other clothing, im sure youd be very succesful with that.
Best of luck.
Porpous

[porpous2]

oh yeah, do you make wallpapers, if so, can i see? id love to use one.
Thanks
Porpous

[Vexir]

Good to see you again Porpous.. site looks like its coming along well... if it had some content it'd be a SOTW for sure :)

[CkretAjint]

oh yeah, do you make wallpapers, if so, can i see? id love to use one.
Thanks
Porpous

Currently at this time I do not. But I am hoping to once I get my site up and running. I am having a hard time placing the vector images into flash MX. It seems to drop a few shapes here and there, making the image appear in complete. and it is REALLY ANNOYING ME!!!! So I think I am just going to have to use PNG files for my images, which sucks cause they are not as clear.

[porpous2]

Good to see you again Porpous.. site looks like its coming along well... if it had some content it'd be a SOTW for sure :)
haha, no i havent like touched the site, ive been working on other sites more, heh. I should really finish that site haha. And, i visit kirupa every day, i just rarely post. And to the last post, could you not just make it so theres a low quality preview in the flash file, and then it opens up a non-flash popup when you click to open the image. That way it can be highest quality?

[Zach-E2]

dooood those are amazing.. how do you get into vector art?

[TheOpus]

Maaan, you just blew my head of.. I dont understand **** anymore...
How`bout making a detailed porche tutorial.. Just for me?? ;)

ill pay you good... with love.. ;)

Anyway, lots of creds to you man, i wanna quit drawing when i see your ****..

;)

[mixedtrigeno]

ok ok thats impressive i dont know if you answered this already but i wanna know what program you use to make this guy

[CkretAjint]

ok ok thats impressive i dont know if you answered this already but i wanna know what program you use to make this guy

I use Illustrator 10, without any gradient meshes, and very few gradients (mostly windows and interior items)

I am in the process of working on a walk through on how to do this type of work. Unfortunately it has to go on my website, and I am working on getting that dne. I have come to the conclusion that an HTML style website would better suit my needs. But this means I have to learn HTML (Dreamweaver) I just finished reading the H.O.T. book on it and plan on whipping out a quick site in the next few days (hopefully).

I will keep everyone posted.

[e-sarbak]

that is awesome ...:)

[web_james]

This is my first post, and I wanna say GREAT illustration.
It's not only because I'm a Porsche fan, but also because you've donne a great job.
Congratulations!


P.S: What's the URL of your site?

[airshap1]

thats tight

[minimalistik]

Good work with the Porsche but don't try to limit yourself with Illustrator yeh? I think your established with Illustrator but if you keep creating individual pieces, it might start to get boring. Try in the future to integrate the vehicle with surroundings or a juxtaposition of objects or traffic or nature. You could really make it a great montage.

Otherwise, your doing great. Keep going.

[mixedtrigeno]

your work is impressive
what program you used?-sorry if you answered this already
is it ok if i can show some of my really awful work in your post i hope you dont mind:

http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/diablo.swf

here are some weapons i drew before:
shotgun:

http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/shotgun.png
magnum 357
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/magnum357.png

USP Match
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/usp_match.png

am not as good as you but i hope i can get there one day
by the way these were done using only FLASH MX

[mixedtrigeno]

heres some more :rambo:
browning handgun
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/browning_w_laser.png

AK47
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/ak47.png

M16A
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/M_16.png

i got 2 more to go and then am done before u guys get mad at me lol

[mixedtrigeno]

USP Match-bigger image

http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/USPMsatchSS.png

C-4- i dont like it that much hey is ok
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/c4.png

[mixedtrigeno]

here's the last one
http://www.geocities.com/mixedtrigenito/flashkitcomp.png

[Jeff Wheeler]

You should make your own thread ;)

Very nice work, though.

[CkretAjint]

your work is impressive
what program you used?-sorry if you answered this already
is it ok if i can show some of my really awful work in your post i hope you dont mind:

am not as good as you but i hope i can get there one day
by the way these were done using only FLASH MX

I use Illustrator 10, without any gradient meshes, and very few gradients (mostly windows and interior items)

[hl]

you don't think you'd be able to basically tutor me on vectors, or better yet make a tutorial for kirupa, would you :D

[truetrojan]

I want to be able to do things like this. I am a complete NOOB. I dont even know what a vector is, how to draw one, what program to use, or anything. Can some one please help me?

[hl]

a vector is a ray (basically) :P

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[squishy]

I want to be able to do things like this. I am a complete NOOB. I dont even know what a vector is, how to draw one, what program to use, or anything. Can some one please help me?
ok, no need to panic. a vector illistration (to the extent of my knowlage) is a drawing with shading done shade by shade.;)