Battle - Underwater!

[ExoVoid]

Hey ya'll,
I'm looking for a battle, theme of underwater, no base image.
Rules are as follows:
Max. 1024x768
Any software you want, If people suggest useful software I'll put a list of it at the end of this post
Must be willing to share source, I always love to see how people do things...
Err, I can't think of anything else, anyone(s) interested?

Thanks mlk for this: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~kand/caustics/ (http://www.lysator.liu.se/%7Ekand/caustics/)

[ar]

Can I make something in 3d studio? I don't have photoshop, but I'll take a crack at it :).






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[mlk]

Things would look cooler if you could use http://www.lysator.liu.se/~kand/caustics/

[Vexir]

DANGIT I would so enter this if I hadn't already battled w/ mikedave lol

I did a crazy underwater piece... I think its still up..

Yea it is:

http://graphicslash.com/filehosting/Kirupa/vsmlk/mevsmikedave2.jpg

Took me forever to do.

Oh well, you guys can use it as inspiration or something :P

[ExoVoid]

Sorry to say Vexir, when I was looking over your battle that that was entered in, I didn't actually note that is was underwater :) Damnit it's cool tho, do you still have a psd for that?

[ExoVoid]

NEW RULES:
Use whatever software you want, I'll update the top post now, but be prepared to share source files. That'll probably make it horribly slanted towards people using 3d, but we'll see.

And vexir, just change it slightly and re-enter it, I'm not so fussy like that :)

[3d Nirvana]

i'm making one in maya right now. be done in a sec :)

[Vexir]

NEW RULES:
Use whatever software you want, I'll update the top post now, but be prepared to share source files. That'll probably make it horribly slanted towards people using 3d, but we'll see.

And vexir, just change it slightly and re-enter it, I'm not so fussy like that :)

OOOOO can I ? sweet ness

[robvr6]

whens the deadline??

[3d Nirvana]

OOOOO can I ? sweet ness

remeber tho, you cant have used a base image right?

[thesparky007]

why arent you participating in the car battle ryan?

[ExoVoid]

Sorry, clearing up the base image thing, I meant I'm not going to be posting a base image, so you have full artistic license... No deadline as of yet, there'll be a poll at the end of it, just for those who want to know...
<ignore me> um, yea, i just want to babble babble babble, maybe I should make a thread for it... </ignore me>

[3d Nirvana]

i say you change the title so it jsut says underwater battle... not just ps :)

[3d Nirvana]

why arent you participating in the car battle ryan?

woops sry, didnt see that there. I'm leaving again in a few days, so i wana hang out with my friends and not start a big project yet.

[DDD]

lol....I may try something (maybe). I just got realFlow so I want to try some water stuff.

[3d Nirvana]

Ok finished my peice. Everything moddled from scratch, no other images used, no plugin thingys.

Maya
Poly Moddled
56,015 polys
Time: 1.5 hours


http://www.3dnirvana.com/ForumPics/UnderwaterFinalBDOF.jpg

Cant wait to see more entries,
3dnirvana

[SlowRoasted]

oooh, nice job dude

[ar]

Haha, bring it on 3d!






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[Vexir]

Haha nice, I'd enter but I don't think altering a piece from another battle really is a nice thing to do :)

[ar]

Can there be multiple entries?






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[mlk]

DANG I've been modelling a treasure box for 3hrs and got burned to it. Argh

[ExoVoid]

Chuck in as many entries as you want, I'm slowly working on mine, trying to expand largely on my footer ideas... but this is a very loose style battle, so go, create, tell your friends, vote me for president!

[psykovsky]

3dnirvana you've mentioned a very high amount of polygons, but your tresure box looks like crap, it looks like LowPoly to me ;) The stones is textured just wrong, some DOF could save the day ;)

[3d Nirvana]

3dnirvana you've mentioned a very high amount of polygons, but your tresure box looks like crap, it looks like LowPoly to me ;) The stones is textured just wrong, some DOF could save the day ;)

plants and sand took the polys, and yes the treasurebox was a afterthought, i did it in 2minutes. It's jsut a box and a cylinder :)

And how are the stones textured wrong? r u talking about the swirly one in the front?

i'm updating mine later :)

what's with the coming in and bashing my stuff anyway?

[GW02]

Some DoF WOULD look nice, come to think of it.

[Vexir]

DANG I've been modelling a treasure box for 3hrs and got burned to it. Argh

What does THAT mean ??? :huh:

[3d Nirvana]

i think he ment got beaten to it? mabey? lol

i redid my treasure box, and added dof, lets see how the render turns out :) (yay 50%!)

[DDD]

did you add some volumetrics? Its too crystal clear. Ooh and we have a 3d guru in the house welcome psykovsky to the forums.

[ExoVoid]

what's with the coming in and bashing my stuff anyway?

Very valid point, please don't bash peoples work unless you have something better :P

[3d Nirvana]

ok added DOF to my enty above, changed my box back to the original (the new one needs some more tweeking), but i forgot to add volumetrics.

Cheers!
3dnirvana

[ExoVoid]

Here's my first attempt, didn't turn out as good as I wanted it, but its as good as I'll get it... Does anyone know anything about the free discreet 3d app? is it any good?

http://home.ripway.com/2005-7/341598/exowater800.jpg

[Tocksiq]

the water is NICE but that ship is blurry

[3d Nirvana]

nice. is the water/ship a picture?

oh and the free discreet app is mainly for level design i think, dosent have many tools, and cant render ( i think)

get the trial of 3dsmax for 30days (it's the full app)

CHeers!
3dnirvana

[ExoVoid]

That ship, what a pain in the behind, it was sharp before, then it looked out of place completely, after numerous colour adjustments, i just chucked some sand up the side, and blurred it a bit, it's actually focussed on one place, I didn't make that obvious enough tho, the ship is a picture, the water is completely rendered in photoshop.
The ship was meant to be one of those kinda ghost ship style things, I just couldn't work out how to portray it...
Now I'm gonna go download the 30 day trial, how easy is it to learn?

[3d Nirvana]

cool. depends on what you meen by "learn" i did 3ds max for 1.5 years and have been doing maya for over 2 years i think.

[ExoVoid]

Because I want to see the sources to peoples work, if you are willing, please either send a copy to or log in to the e-mail I have just set up and upload it.
Attachments may not be more than 10mb, so if you can't get the file smaller, please either try compression or reducing the resolution (if photoshop), if 3d, there's not really anything that can be done (i think).

kirupa.forum@gmail.com
pass: flashvector
gmail.google.com

[3d Nirvana]

do you have maya to view it? cuz i dont think it'll do any good to have the file if you cant see it :)

if you still want it, i'll give it to you at the end of the battle, i still wana make some adjustments (like add fish :))

[mlk]

What does THAT mean ??? :huh:

Erm yeah. Beatan to it. ie it was a burn. English ain't my first language so this should explain it. :ko:

I don't care. I'm still modelling the d@amn treasur box

[B3NKobe]

Nice Job Everyone, They all look sweet as!! :thumb::D


Well im no 3D Guy, im all Photoshop so my entry will be sufficently un exciting, will submitt soon.

[Vexir]

Here's my first attempt, didn't turn out as good as I wanted it, but its as good as I'll get it... Does anyone know anything about the free

Thats not how things work underwater, you don't blur them, you fade them out :)

Use a layer mask with a simepl black to white gradient :)

[B3NKobe]

Alright well here is my entry, nothing good compared to your 3D images and considering I cant draw for monkeys it didnt turn out too bad:


http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/3605/kirupaunderwaterbattle4kt.jpg

[Vexir]

I like it better than the rest, I must admit.

[ar]

does it have to be underwater, or can it be something close, like a fish tank, or something :).






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[ExoVoid]

Hmm... Very good question, because it's so early now, I'll say try to keep it underwater, but if you have a brilliant idea for something close, go for it.

@Vexir: I know things fade out, but the ship image was really low quality so I also didn't want it to fade...

[Vexir]

So apply the Blur filter a couple of times then fade it :)

[ExoVoid]

sure, sounds easy enough, but it means I have to redo the sand up the sides, and although I did it badly the first time, it was an absolute pain in the behind to do regardless, I'll leave my entry as it is and work on my next one.

[ar]

Can someone help me out with coustics and water, and stuff? They took off the tutorial on it :D!






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[ExoVoid]

I can't tell you exactly how I did mine, but I just pretty much made a dark water texture, and put it on a layer with linear dodge, you can download my psd and take a look at it from the gmail address I provided earlier.

[ar]

Here's my entry. I think I'm going to make more, or inprove this one.






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[ExoVoid]

wicked, I wish I could do 3d... Does anyone know what the thread is that had a huge list of tut sites? I can't find it, I know it's stickied somewhere, but I cant find it anywhere.

[thesparky007]

wicked, I wish I could do 3d... Does anyone know what the thread is that had a huge list of tut sites? I can't find it, I know it's stickied somewhere, but I cant find it anywhere.drawing and design forum i believe

[ar]

http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13133






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(http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13133)

[GW02]

Um, sorry, EStudios, but isn't the battle Underwater? ;)

edit: I see ExoVoid's post now, never mind. :)

[ar]

:)






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[ar]

Here's another entry. Is there anything that I could do with it? Any changes? The second is a night scene, I guess.






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[ExoVoid]

The first is much nicer than the second, the sand is nice, work on that, it'll be cool.

[ExoVoid]

*bump*... anyone else entering or do I set up a poll soon?

[Nuvis]

Here is my quick stab at it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/ftulink/underwater2.jpg

Nuvis

[Vexir]

What is that supposed to be nuvis...lol

Anyway yeah I'm working on mine...

[ExoVoid]

it actually looks like mine just with layers on different settings... i think he stole my psd and redid it in paint :(

[Nuvis]

It's supposed to be like your in the water looking out, water on top, sand on bottom. I dunno I did this in 5 min :). LoL ExoVoid I did this in max so I didn't steal your psd :).

Nuvis

[ExoVoid]

wow, I didn't know you could make max look like paint :P... It's just a bit messy in the middle, if you could clean up the middle part, and send a refracting light in from the top, it would be a lot nicer.

[ar]

Hey, in 3ds, just take out the middle part, and add a fog environment. It would look nice. If you need any help with caustics, if you want any, feel free to ask. I'll show you the propper tutorial, and I'll give you the caustics material thing.






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[[JAMIE]]

had a play around. pretty much my first proper illustration (done in illustrator btw). I personally do things sketchy, hope you like it.

[REEF·]

nice work :thumb2:

[Nuvis]

Alright then I'll work on it for you guys :}, a few questions first. When ever I'm working with custom lighting I can't ever get the light to go through objects like a glass texture I've made or water. How is this effect produced? I've pretty much taught Max to myself as far as lighting and partical systems go.

EternalStudios yeah I'd like that if you would show a good tutorial for caustics. I've made clouds before, here is a small render,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/ftulink/clouds2.jpg

but thats about it. Happy modeling,

Nuvis

[ar]

Those clouds look pretty cool :D. Do you think you could write out a quick tutorial, if that's in 3ds? I'm still learning particle systems, and all of those cloud things and such.

Here's a great tutorial that I basically used to make my entry, that teaches you how to make a great underwater scene, and with the appearance of caustics. Oh, and once you've finished making your caustics material, it's a good idea to save it to your library by pressing the save materials button in the materials tool bar, it's the one that has a ball and a thing pointing to a floppy disk. Link to tutorial. (http://216.165.190.200/asp/tutorials/max/underwaterscenes/underwaterscenes.asp)

Here's a tutorial for caustics in mental ray. Actuall caustics with glass. It's pretty handy, and the best part is, it's with mental ray, which is built into 3ds r6 and 3ds r7. Link to tutorial. (http://www.xedium3d.com/tutorials/caustics/caustics.html)






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[ExoVoid]

wow, both of you, wicked work, loving the hand drawn thing, and those clouds... <jealous> I wish I could use max </jealous>

[Vexir]

']had a play around. pretty much my first proper illustration (done in illustrator btw). I personally do things sketchy, hope you like it.

FINDING NEMO!!! FINDING NEMO FINDING NEMO FINDING NEMO!!!!! :pleased:

[ar]

wow, both of you, wicked work, loving the hand drawn thing, and those clouds... <jealous> I wish I could use max </jealous>

You could get the trial from Autodesk (http://autodesk.com). EVerything that I'm making is from the trial anyway :D.






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[Nuvis]

Yeah I'll write a tutorial later today for those clouds, click here if you want to see a bigger render of it. Be sure to look at the actual size of it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/ftulink/086196c7.jpg

Nuvis

[[JAMIE]]

FINDING NEMO!!! FINDING NEMO FINDING NEMO FINDING NEMO!!!!! :pleased:

are you implying that it was stolen? i hope not!

it is only similar cuz i took some inspiration from nemo and clown fish look cool.

[REEF·]

he's implying he watched it 4 times.

[ExoVoid]

:lol: Well, It's been well done no atter what it was inspired by, and I just saw the words, very cool idea.

[Nuvis]

EternalStudio here is a tutorial I found for making clouds, I couldn't find one that did it the same way as I but this one is pretty close. If you have any question let me know.

http://www.vecpix.com/tutorials/3dstudio/sm001.php

Nuvis

[ar]

Thanks, I'm definatlely going to look into that.






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[tripdragon]

DANGIT I would so enter this if I hadn't already battled w/ mikedave lol

I did a crazy underwater piece... I think its still up..

Yea it is:

http://graphicslash.com/filehosting/Kirupa/vsmlk/mevsmikedave2.jpg

Took me forever to do.

Oh well, you guys can use it as inspiration or something :P


UGH ,, That is SOOOOOOOOooooo cool, tutorial please !

[Vexir]

Aw no way, that piece took over 5 hours mate, besides, it involves a lot of techniques not just one so a tutorial would be pointless.

[mlkedave]

ah who cares, enter it vexir lol

[ExoVoid]

yea, maybe just change the text a bit, change the colour if you want, whatever, and please give me the psd, i want to examine it... these earthlings are fascinating!

[Vexir]

You mean it? Sweet, thanks! I'll put it up tomorrow. :)

[Eh?]

Edited it. Cant compare to vexirs though. His is awesome.

[Vexir]

That really does look ace mate, I like it a lot :) Thanks too. ;)

Anyway here's mine, thought I'd just alter it a bit. I didn't remove the RIP, I think it sort of fits :) That's just me though..

http://graphicslash.com/filehosting/Kirupa/underwaterbattle.jpg

[ExoVoid]

very nice, now is there anyone else going to enter or shall I set up a poll?

[creativeFuzion]

That really does look ace mate, I like it a lot :) Thanks too. ;)

Anyway here's mine, thought I'd just alter it a bit. I didn't remove the RIP, I think it sort of fits :) That's just me though..

http://graphicslash.com/filehosting/Kirupa/underwaterbattle.jpg

Lookin' good vex! Keep up the dam good work! (can't wait to see your portfolio, that oughta be pimpin'. ;)

~Philip

[Vexir]

:thumb: Thanks, though you'll be dissapointed when you see my portfolio ( I think ). I'm not nearly as capable in Flash as I am in Photoshop :P

[Vexir]

Exo just put up the poll mate :)

[ExoVoid]

Sorry... how do I put up a poll? never done it before, looked over the reply to topic page, can't find it there, can't find it anywhere else obvious, which means i've overlooked it...
Also thought you'd better know, if I don't find out in the next 8 hours I wont do it till Sunday night because I'm going off skiing with a group, we're leaving in 8 hours... so, please tell me soon.

Just making sure I haven't missed anyone, this is the list of people who entered, please tell me if I missed you.

3d Nirvana
ExoVoid
B3NKobe
EternalStudios
EternalStudios 2
Nuvis
[JAMIE]
Eh?
Vexir

[Vexir]

Create a new thread, scroll down, you can input poll options there :)

[ExoVoid]

new thread? so i can't do it in this one?

[Vexir]

Nope ;)

Edit: You might be able to edit your first post acutally and put the poll on there. But I wouldn't recommend it. Create a new thread for the poll, have the title like

[POLL] Vote Now! Underwater Battle!