how blatant a rip is this?

[AnOraK]

once again eric jordan will be seeing red

another 2 advanced (http://www.philipstudios.com/)

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[vts31]

dime a dozen

[eilsoe]

At least he made his stuff himself..

I've seen ppl who just copy other ppl's work right down to every pixel :-\

Only titles have been cahnged, and the content of course...



I don't mind ppl use other ppl's designs as inspiration, we can't demand that every site is unique.


but THIS one REALLY looks like 2A, same color scheme even...


bah... my new "design" looks like Flux's, I got my inspiration from him... I need a main site, it's been empty for over 6 months now. I'm just gonna throw SOMETHING up there...

[Kitiara]

I think it's reasonable to be inspired by something, after all, most things have been done now. But there is a limit...

[eilsoe]

of course..

the flicker/glitter effect on his "logo" was a bit too much...


but the overall layout was..... ok... sorta...

except for the color scheme rip...

[upuaut]

in general.. how many truely origional sites have any of us come across. Few and far between. The sad thing of course is that some newb is going to come here in three weeks and go.. "Guys.. you gotta see this kick *** site!!".

[SureShot]

Very true.

Although this site is very nice and must have taken a lot of work. I mean - even though it's a copy, it doesnt make it "less nice" I dont think I would have the talent to do something like that so I do respect it.

Although I agree - it's pretty **** close to 2advanced... the colours are a little much :)

[Kitiara]

There's only so many different designs out there, but to basically borrow a whole layout, animation idea and a colour scheme is a bit much. I dunno.

2advanced probably don't care anymore. They're so well known for <i>that site</i> that anyone who sees a clone of it will know what it's a clone of...

[mariofan]

to be honest, as nice as the 2a website is, ive seen it way too many times.....

:m:

[Kitiara]

Yeah, it was incredible the first time I saw it, but now it's lost a lot of the appeal. Basically, once I learned Flash and worked out how they'd done it, it was sort of... boring. :)

[.soulty]

did 2advance bring out a new site?? hehe :P

Yeah it does look very close to 2advanced but you have to give him some credit for some of the nice work he has put into it. I agree with everyone here, that his layout it tooo much like 2advanced, but maybe he can back himself up with some nice different web designs for his clients.

A teacher told me once while studying, try not to go on the web while drawing down your concepts, even though you think your not using someones idea, the concept of their site is there in the back of your mind, and will somehow end up drawn down.

:smirk:

[.soulty]

whats with module as well, first i saw it at 2advanced and now i see it everwhere. loading module ,intialising module, module complete!!!!!

[kode]

loading module, intialising module, module complete!!!!!
:P :P .. so true :-\

[SureShot]

hahah - I gues I never noticed that before, your right, it's everywhere!

*looks around*

HEY! Who stole my module!!?? is it that kid stealing all those footers??!!

[Lynx]

Originally posted by Soulty
did 2advance bring out a new site?? hehe :P
try not to go on the web while drawing down your concepts

wow, good idea, but one thing - I won't be able to post here in Kirupa =)

Is this site not done or what? I can't see anything except main layout (buttons; "last project", "company pack", "ideeas" with no content in them) :smirk:

http://www33.brinkster.com/antibanglai/lynx.gif

[gimmesomemore!!]

Its still a pretty good site though. I mean, minus it unorigionality (sp?) but....you would think...if he can make a site that good (the rip off one) than he would be able to come up w/ somthing new....fresh looking....guess. not

[RenaissanceGirl]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... just because no idea is original anymore, doesn't mean it's ok to rip off 2advanced.

[gimmesomemore!!]

Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl
I've said it before and I'll say it again... just because no idea is original anymore, doesn't mean it's ok to rip off 2advanced.

if your talking about my post.....I never said it was OK, just that its still a good site, and w/ thier knowledge I wonder why they did'nt come up w/ anything of thier own. (pretend 2 advanced did'nt exist, you would think it was cool)

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by mariofan
to be honest, as nice as the 2a website is, ive seen it way too many times.....

:m:

Same here man. I often say that I am sick of it and I think it is time they create a new site, but then I think about how I don't want that to happen because there will be a billion people on the forum asking how to rip off all the new effects and stuff. Then there will be another million people creating ripped off versions of the site left and right.

Flash was meant to give more creativity in a site design, but apparently if it doesn't look like 2advanced, it isn't good :-\

[kode]

Flash was meant to give more creativity in a site design, but apparently if it doesn't look like 2advanced, it isn't good :-\
i think i'm going to cry :*(

[lostinbeta]

You do know that "if it doesn't look like 2advanced, it isn't good" statement was sarcasm right?

[RenaissanceGirl]

Originally posted by gimmesomemore!!
if your talking about my post.....I never said it was OK, just that its still a good site, and w/ thier knowledge I wonder why they did'nt come up w/ anything of thier own. (pretend 2 advanced did'nt exist, you would think it was cool)

I wasn't really talking to anyone specifically... I just get this notion when people defend 2advanced clones... since there's no original idea, then it's really not too bad to copy them. That might be true but the number of sites copying 2advanced is really astronomical and I personally don't think it's ok. And how many of these sites actually give 2advanced credit for using their ideas. Sure, it's easy to come across a site that might use similar colors or have their menus, etc in the right place. But usually, people cross way beyond that line that they don't even see it anymore.

http://www.geocities.com/renaissancegerl/x/ripoff1.txt

[kode]

yep ;) :)

still .. i think i'm going to cry :*(

... it seems like people has lost the creativity!! :hair:

[lostinbeta]

Wow Ren: after looking at back to back screenshots, that truly is an obvious rip (and I thought it was noticeable before, but back to back it really is).

and kax: I know :*(

[gimmesomemore!!]

Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl
I wasn't really talking to anyone specifically... I just get this notion when people defend 2advanced clones... since there's no original idea, then it's really not too bad to copy them. That might be true but the number of sites copying 2advanced is really astronomical and I personally don't think it's ok. And how many of these sites actually give 2advanced credit for using their ideas. Sure, it's easy to come across a site that might use similar colors or have their menus, etc in the right place. But usually, people cross way beyond that line that they don't even see it anymore.

http://www.geocities.com/renaissancegerl/x/ripoff1.txt


oh i totally agree.

[kode]

look at that!! i can't believe it .. this is so depressing :-\

[Lynx]

Is that guy/girl stupid or what?!! Maybe he thought that no one would know about 2advanced......

[reverendflash]

creativity is drastically underrated...

I know a lot of people who have the talent, but couldn't come up with an original idea if their life depended on it. But give them a sample to copy off of, and they are DaVinci...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[SureShot]

Creativity is usually a combination of things you have seen and ways you can improve them.

i mean - almost no idea is compleatly original anymore but with time comes more ideas. People have been saying "it's all been done before" forever but new ideas happen all the time. I mean if you look hard enough you can find certain attributes from other ideas but to bring it all together and make your own is truley original.

Ren girl - I know you werent really picking on one person but to defend myself, I DO NOT think it's ok to copy someone else's work. Ever. I know it's considered the truest form of flattery but in the design world it's not right. I know many people like the ones Rev has described, heck I have even been one of them on occasion. But if you cannot come up with your own ideas you arent going to make it very far.

[gimmesomemore!!]

Originally posted by reverendflash
creativity is drastically underrated...

I know a lot of people who have the talent, but couldn't come up with an original idea if their life depended on it. But give them a sample to copy off of, and they are DaVinci...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

true, very true

[RenaissanceGirl]

Originally posted by SureShot
Creativity is usually a combination of things you have seen and ways you can improve them.

i mean - almost no idea is compleatly original anymore but with time comes more ideas. People have been saying "it's all been done before" forever but new ideas happen all the time. I mean if you look hard enough you can find certain attributes from other ideas but to bring it all together and make your own is truley original.

Ren girl - I know you werent really picking on one person but to defend myself, I DO NOT think it's ok to copy someone else's work. Ever. I know it's considered the truest form of flattery but in the design world it's not right. I know many people like the ones Rev has described, heck I have even been one of them on occasion. But if you cannot come up with your own ideas you arent going to make it very far.

I agree... it's not IMPOSSIBLE to come up with a new idea. But if you're going to imitate, at least add your own twist to it, or improve upon it - and I'm not just talking about moving the menu from the top to the bottom. This is why I personally am not at all impressed at 2advanced clones - even if they did build it from scratch and not just copy everything pixel by pixel. None of them even have the sense or originality to at the very least implement a new color scheme! That's just ridiculous.

And I agree, imitation is flattery. But give credit where credit is due, otherwise, you're not admiring someone's work but stealing their thunder.

[gimmesomemore!!]

Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl
I agree... it's not IMPOSSIBLE to come up with a new idea. But if you're going to imitate, at least add your own twist to it, or improve upon it - and I'm not just talking about moving the menu from the top to the bottom. This is why I personally am not at all impressed at 2advanced clones - even if they did build it from scratch and not just copy everything pixel by pixel. None of them even have the sense or originality to at the very least implement a new color scheme! That's just ridiculous.

And I agree, imitation is flattery. But give credit where credit is due, otherwise, you're not admiring someone's work but stealing their thunder.


mmmmm....*ponders for a sec* very well put rengrl. Good nice healthy discussion.

[AnOraK]

i totally agree with rengirl....

well put and straight to the obvious point...

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[reverendflash]

I agree Ren...

I look for the same in live music. I don't care if you cover a tune, just give me added value... something that makes it yours... in other words, invest your soul into it, and own it...

I have an aquaintance (he owns my fav pub) who is a very very talented blues guitarist. However, he plays every song the same, note for note, riff for riff. I hadn't seen him play in a while (I can't stand to hear him anymore), so I stopped in the other nite. He played the same songs, note for note, solo for solo, as he has for the past 5 years that I know of (I hadn't heard him play prev)...

I no longer go to my fav pub on Tuesday nites... (he also has the personality of a moldy floor mop)...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[mjULTRA]

i think the biggest crime is that this guy copyrights all of his images, designs, and flash files. He even goes so far as to refer to the site as done in 'his style' I think he should give credit to 2advanced on his site, or face a plaugeurism lawsuit.

[gimmesomemore!!]

Originally posted by Majeye
i think the biggest crime is that this guy copyrights all of his images, designs, and flash files. He even goes so far as to refer to the site as done in 'his style' I think he should give credit to 2advanced on his site, or face a plaugeurism lawsuit.

I know!! i was reading some of his stuff......he talkes about "his style"?! hahaha, should be 2 advanced style. I just emailed him with "another 2 advanced"