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n4c
March 14th, 2005, 02:47 AM
Breaking news: Kasparov retires from professional chess
10.03.2005 The winner of Linares and the world's strongest chessplayer, Garry Kasparov, has just announced his retirement from professional chess. His games in Linares are the last in his professional career, that has spanned thirty years, with twenty on the top of the ratings list. Full details to follow at chessbase.com (http://chessbase.com/)

Have a great day...

n4c
DarkChild
March 14th, 2005, 02:48 AM
yeah, read it in the paper last saturday. not that i'd miss him though, not really into the whole chess-game
GreenLantern
March 14th, 2005, 09:55 AM
Computers are taking over Chess anyway. Soon (if not now) no human will be able to be a computer at a game of chess.
RabBell
March 14th, 2005, 10:15 AM
hey gary congrats on an amazing career without a blip

** COUGH ** HACK **COUGH ** DEEP BLUE ** COUGH ;)
G
March 14th, 2005, 10:20 AM
i'm truly gutted :)
foodpk
March 14th, 2005, 10:24 AM
Computers are taking over Chess anyway. Soon (if not now) no human will be able to be a computer at a game of chess.
Soon (I'm talking 20 years maximum), computers will be better than humans on every possible intellectual, spiritual and creative field.
GreenLantern
March 14th, 2005, 10:28 AM
I don't know how that could happen. I mean computers aren't really known for being "creative". But who knows, look how far they have come.
kaotic
March 14th, 2005, 11:01 AM
you cant program in intellect you can only program in probabilities certain scenarios will happen thats why i think it will never happen
RabBell
March 14th, 2005, 11:04 AM
you take the computer that beat him at chess, Deep Blue

if you fill that with medical knowledge, all the medical knowledge in the world and then stick it with some tribe in the amazon. Doesn't that mean that that tribe now has access to the best medical brain in the world.....(and yes it can update itself with new info and the tribe have been shown how to use it)

doesn't that mean that this machine has now becomes the worlds most knowledgable doctor?

By the way I don't disagree with anyone I'm just presenting an intresting argument
GreenLantern
March 14th, 2005, 11:05 AM
you cant program in intellect you can only program in probabilities certain scenarios will happen thats why i think it will never happen

Why can't you?

The way I look at it is if our brains can do what they can do, then we can create something that is equal to it.
kaotic
March 14th, 2005, 11:10 AM
the problem then becomes we have no method for programming the unkown factors in life. if a computer isnt told what to do it will not do it
if you tell a robot walk in a straighht line and it encounters a cliff...it will continue to walk off the cliff unless you have programmed in cliff is bad
GreenLantern
March 14th, 2005, 11:18 AM
if you tell a robot walk in a straighht line and it encounters a cliff...it will continue to walk off the cliff unless you have programmed in cliff is bad

You don't really have to program in every situation that a robot would run into. You just need to program in an ability to learn. Which, getting back to the topic here, a chess computer can not do. All it does is evaluate moves. It doesn't base it's play on past experience.
n4c
March 14th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Computers are taking over Chess anyway. Soon (if not now) no human will be able to be a computer at a game of chess.

If computers take over chess then they will be no chess champion...

have a great day...

n4c
n4c
March 14th, 2005, 11:28 AM
hey gary congrats on an amazing career without a blip

** COUGH ** HACK **COUGH ** DEEP BLUE ** COUGH ;)

I think he is not human.. He is an upgraded human model of Deep Blue...

Have a great day...

n4c
n4c
March 14th, 2005, 11:31 AM
Soon (I'm talking 20 years maximum), computers will be better than humans on every possible intellectual, spiritual and creative field.

i hope you will be around by 2025 when as you state computers will be better than humans on every possible intellectual, spiritual and creative field.

have a great day...

n4c
foodpk
March 14th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Haha, well, I meant better than people who are not upgraded with nano probes and intellect enhancing technology. The development of computers is so fast and exponential that computers surpassing human intelligence is not only inevitable, it is imminent. And for people to merge with computers, that is not only what they must do in order to keep up, it is their destiny.
Read more at the website of one of the leading AI scientists - http://www.kurzweilai.com
n4c
March 14th, 2005, 11:46 AM
you take the computer that beat him at chess, Deep Blue

if you fill that with medical knowledge, all the medical knowledge in the world and then stick it with some tribe in the amazon. Doesn't that mean that that tribe now has access to the best medical brain in the world.....(and yes it can update itself with new info and the tribe have been shown how to use it)

doesn't that mean that this machine has now becomes the worlds most knowledgable doctor?

By the way I don't disagree with anyone I'm just presenting an intresting argument

i agree with you..

have a great day...

n4c
GreenLantern
March 14th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Kasparov would probably be apalled to the fact that a thread was started about him, and the topic quickly shifted to a discussion on AI. :lol:
foodpk
March 14th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Yes, he would be turning in his grave. Well, okay, he would be turning in his bed.
n4c
March 14th, 2005, 12:49 PM
Yes, he would be turning in his grave. Well, okay, he would be turning in his bed.

hi all,

I wish there was an application form for the vacant post of "world chess champion". I think i have the qualities for that post...

If any of you disagree come and challenge me.. when i play chess my computer always crashes..

Have a great day...

n4c