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seattle
February 20th, 2003, 03:53 PM
need help for a project...what would be the perfect gift for castro is money was no object

Alex
February 20th, 2003, 03:56 PM
???:q:

Aislin
February 20th, 2003, 04:01 PM
Castro? As in Cuban dude? As in American presidents are numbnuts and the CIA actually allowed the selling of drugs to americans? As in WHA!?

Alex
February 20th, 2003, 04:01 PM
haha:trout:

Aislin
February 20th, 2003, 04:02 PM
let me elaborate :

Actually helped the selling of drugs to americans? AS IN WHA?!

seattle
February 20th, 2003, 04:05 PM
i ask a simple questiona nd so far i have been replied to as follows:
1) ?????
2)hahahaha
3)lets stick a pencil in his head
:):):)

Alex
February 20th, 2003, 04:13 PM
i didnt even get what you where trying to ask. sorry about that im just a little hyper this afernoon.:ub:

Alex
February 20th, 2003, 04:16 PM
well it would be a inexpensive gift. if you looking to go cheap. haha:beam:

seattle
February 20th, 2003, 04:18 PM
im not mad alex...

and phil i dont think my teacher would apprecite that idea though it was creative

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 04:21 PM
i think you should get him...

...a democratic nation...


:skull:

seattle
February 20th, 2003, 04:25 PM
how about a lift on embargoes?
or more land?
is cuba a crowded country?

Alex
February 20th, 2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
A pencil deeply buried in the middle of his forehead...?

does that werk...? lol

pj :P


how about a pencil sharpener?:sigh: <:}

seattle
February 20th, 2003, 04:29 PM
lol
pencil sharpener:):)

Aislin
February 20th, 2003, 04:44 PM
teacher's need one thing, all the time

Proof of some theory they are trying to prove.

They'll love you to death and pass you just like that.

Now I need to prove time travel and get 100% in my history class...

seattle
February 20th, 2003, 05:04 PM
never mind
i got him an "vacation home"

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 07:13 PM
as an 'American' i would like to:

1.) Press my 'American' belief's on another country even if that means destroying the country and rebuilding it from scratch*

2.) Sink my claws into any natural resources that country may have and use them to my advantage.

3.) Convert the people to Christianity, to save them from going to HELL. :evil:

* well...at least destroy the country..steal the resources..and conviently forget about rebuilding the country so that i can save money, and put it towards outlawing abortion, and fighting the war on drugs.

Isn't it nice being American so we can cheat everyone else for our own gains?

ya know...I'm from Philadelphia, and I love my country a lot, and I appreciate the freedoms that our ancestors fought so hard to get us, but i can't help but feel that we're doing exactly what our forefathers fought against. and it angers me to the point where i just get frustrated. We fought for freedom, and now we have it. Isn't that enough? Why can't we let other countries duke it out for themselves...fight for what they feel is right...why do we always have to be the middleman? i'm tired of being the middleman...imperialism is dead. I say we just pull our troops back...and go neutral. By defending all those under dogs out there all we do is make new enemies, and that isn't what its all about. if we didn't press our beliefs on people we wouldn't have a war on terror...we wouldn't be considered the 'infidel'...come on...its time for a change already...

the constitution is becoming outdated with all the technology now. it's a great moral basis, but let's face it, times have definately changed, needs have changed. There is no reason in the world why I would need an assault rifle in my house for protection...come on...we're living off laws that were written 200 years ago...its time to bring things up to date...people are starting to take advantage of the constitution and the bill of rights. and in order for that to change, we need to excercise the rights we have been given as Americans to fix AMERICA...not Iraq...not Russia...not Cuba...we need to fix ourselves...

sorry for this rant...i don't even know if it makes sense...its just that these days I think our government has lost touch with what's going on within its own borders. when we are perfect we can press our beliefs on others, but we are far from perfect, and no one is perfect, or will ever be perfect.

--oh yeah...and the list at the top of my rant is draped in heavy sarcasm...

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 07:28 PM
I didn't mean to target guns specifically, i meant to make the point of we're basing our laws off of something that was written 200 years ago.

Banning guns will not solve everything, and i know that. I reccomend watching the movie 'Bowling for Columbine''Bowling for Columbine' (http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/)

i just want our government to worry about the problems within our own society, before we go and worry about other people's problems...ya know?

i just think the American government needs a little retooling...

:tie: :tie: :tie:

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 07:35 PM
amen to that

I think we need to go back...and not toss away the Constitution, but overhaul it for the time we live in...

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 07:38 PM
The United States Government's main priority should be:

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 07:51 PM
its not that I intend to get rid of it, I think we should keep it updated...its a great basis...great...and i think everyone should read it at least once...

i think that we need to keep it up to date, things have changed since 1776...technology has changed things so much...society has changed...

LoungeActx
February 20th, 2003, 10:28 PM
First of all...

All "men" are created equal...remember the Constitution was written back when "land-owning men" were the only people who counted. It should be ammended to "people" but its not. This is just one example of something simple, that should be changed, but hasn't...

It is also different nowadays because we aren't the underdog anymore, we are one of the 7 superpowers now, with veto capabilities, our responsibilities to ourselves and the international community.

The Second Ammendment:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The first 4 words, state 'A well regulated militia", this has been twisted so that, "Every American has the right to bear arms" Where's the militia in that? We have an established defense in place, and there is no longer a need for every American to bear arms. Guns = Unjustified Violence. What good has this ammendment done for the our country in the past century, other then create meaningless violence. If I were to ammend this ammendment, I would stress, "regulated", there is no need for assault rifles, or handguns in American homes. Hunting Rifles, serve a purpose.

The 17th Ammendment:

U.S. Senators to be elected by direct popular vote

Why not ammend this to President's also? This way, Florida voters can't screw things up. C:-) Where is the need for the Electorial College now? Aren't the American people the ones who should pick the president? The only thing the electorial college is good for is making a giant mochery of the democratic voting process.

These are just some I can come up with off the top of my head...but I'm sure if I took the time, and read through the rest of them, I can pick them apart, and find exceptions to every rule...I'm not saying that eliminating guns right now will solve all of our problems, but you have to start somewhere. Someone has to set an example that picking up a firearm isn't the best way of dealing with things. The second ammendment is for you to use your firearm to defend your country. Not take revenge, or your anger out on others. That is what cops are for. Someone does you wrong, you call the cops, not pick up a gun. Someone needs to preach this.

upuaut
February 21st, 2003, 05:37 AM
I agree with Lounge all the first two points completely. Not that I would want to remove weapons from anyone's hands, but I do believe that the people who do own them should be required to prove that they are in a regular malitia organization which meets regularly to train in the safe, and proper use of firearms. I believe that this was and should still be the intent of those words. There are far too many people running around without a frellin clue how to use their weapons. That in my opinion is more dangerous than a cop on the take.

The direct vote for President is just silly. The reason it's worded that way is to PREVENT a direct vote for the president. Mob rule should NEVER be allowed to dictate the power of this country. It's a representative republic for exactly that reason. When you allow a direct vote you open the door for really nasty people to take power. That's not just a fear, it's been proven, granted on a smaller scale than the American presidency.

As for Florida, Gore lost that election because a minority chose to intimidate a particular class of voter, not because the current system doesn't work. If you want to prevent that in the future you're going to have to gather together that malitia that you belong to and defend the rights of voters to an active part in the electoral process.

upuaut
February 21st, 2003, 05:45 AM
Oh.. and as for Castro.. which started this thread. I'd urge people to not be quite so judgemental of the guy. I'm not saying he's an angel. He's a fascist leader to be certain. However, he has had a 40 year Shmeer campaign against him. Much of what is said about him is just a load of crap. I think that he has done wonders for his people given the economic strain the US has placed upon Cuba for so long.

I would lift sanctions from his island with the stipulation that he sign a deal stating that he will not EVER have nukes in Cuba again, and that the US (not NATO) has full access to investigate and regulate that rule. (ie. weapons inspectors.) The only reason I say that is that he probebly still has quite a big grudge against the US. I do think that there is a pretty good chance that he would take that deal at this point in time, but I doubt the US would ever give it to him.

LoungeActx
February 21st, 2003, 12:20 PM
All I pretty much have to say about guns is watch the documentary 'Bowling for Columbine' if you are at all interested in the topic of guns. Its done great, it argues both sides, being told by Michael Moore (lifetime NRA member) but it will open your eyes on American policies, no matter what side of the gun debate you are on...

even if you just goto the movie's site and watch a clip video clip...there is a section of it animated by Matt Stone, and Trey Parker...they talk to Charlton Heston, and a lot more people you will recognize...

:x :beam: :x

upuaut
February 21st, 2003, 04:01 PM
I second that. And furthermore I'd say that you should watch ANYTHING that Moore produces.

Makaveli
February 21st, 2003, 06:06 PM
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give them all a trout....perfect gift.....

also about the guns.....we NEED guns.......do you want the queen of england came to your house and start slapping you with that little glove of hers? (from simpsons) well do you????