Logo Critique?

[Krilnon]

I'm trying to make a good new logo for my site, Reclipse. Just tell me your thoughts on what could be improved, and such things. (BTW, my site is down at the moment because I changed my DNS's a few minutes ago.)

[jnicklo]

Hmmmmmm

Do you mind if I suggest doing the logo in Illustrator? What you've got is a great start but the concept is not only used but it's a tad similar to many companies out there.

What I would suggest is doing a sort of halftone screen on it. In other words each swoosh would be made up of different sized circles.

If I can find an example of this I'll post it.

Also, try incorporating some typography into it. As it stands you'll have a very hard time giving the viewer any idea of what you do or what the company does.

Get what I'm saying?

[mlkedave]

yeah i looks really good but i think jnicklo's right about doing it in Illustrator. Great job.

MIke

[Krilnon]

Hmm... I don't have Illustrator, so I can't really do anything there. Originally I did this in FreeHand, then I moved it to Fireworks, then Photoshop.

Thanks for your responses so far. :)

[jnicklo]

EEEeeeek!!!!

You've gotta be kidding me.

You should've just stayed in Freehand.

Dont EVER do a logo in Fireworks!!!

Man, I cant stress that.

[Krilnon]

Well how do I complete a logo in FreeHand?

[jnicklo]

Well I dont get it....how do you complete a logo in freehand....

[DDD]

I like the logo, but add some text to it so I can really critique it. Text can make it or break it. ALso give us a lil profile on the company. That helps alot


why not do logos in FW....I do it from time to time....It is a vector tool as is AI. Although AI is much more advanced.

Yeah I dont get it either? How do you complete a logo in freehand?

[andarts]

Like it, as everyone says, needs a vector kick! Would work well a arial bold font.

[jnicklo]

I like the logo, but add some text to it so I can really critique it. Text can make it or break it. ALso give us a lil profile on the company. That helps alot


why not do logos in FW....I do it from time to time....It is a vector tool as is AI. Although AI is much more advanced.

Yeah I dont get it either? How do you complete a logo in freehand?


You're joking right?

Freehand is NOT vector.

Anyone who told you that needs to take a long walk off a short pier or quit designing b/c thats wrong.

Fireworks is a second rate Photoshop that Macromedia figured would suffice people who're just getting into design. That's my 2 cents. DEFINATELY NOT a vector app.

[DDD]

lol...jnicklo you are funny....Explain what makes FW not vector. And you say freehand is not vector either?

Maybe you should hang up your designers hat and unplug the MAC. While I do agree that they initially geared it towards PS. I would not replace PS with FW for the world. But saying it is not a vector app, kinda speaks more to your understanding of design than it does the inability of the app. But to each his own. I use all the mentioned apps professionally so I can say each is in heavy rotation in my tool box.

[Krilnon]

This one's not as touched up, but I can later.


Also, I'll add text and stuff later, right now I'm just wondering how the shape looks.

[Axel]

About Freehand, it is way better for designing logos, and vectors, as is Illustrator. I wouldn't use Fireworks.

Fireworks is really not all that great compared to the powers of Freehand and Illustrator. BTW, nice logo you have going there. Keep up the good work.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, Fireworks CAN DO vectors, except Freehand and Illustrator are way better for it :kir: .

[jnicklo]

lol...jnicklo you are funny....Explain what makes FW not vector. And you say freehand is not vector either?

Maybe you should hang up your designers hat and unplug the MAC. While I do agree that they initially geared it towards PS. I would not replace PS with FW for the world. But saying it is not a vector app, kinda speaks more to your understanding of design than it does the inability of the app. But to each his own. I use all the mentioned apps professionally so I can say each is in heavy rotation in my tool box.


One, you're putting words in my mouth. I didnt say Freehand isnt Vector.

I said Fireworks is not vector.

Ok so you tell me this, can you create a 5" x 5" circle in Fireworks (basic shape), scale it down say, 90% then scale it back up 150% and still keep the vector quality? I don't think so.

Why? b/c Fireworks is NOT a vector based application.

Flash, Freehand, CorelDraw & Illustrator are.

If you wan't to bring in the whole "I do this for a living, I use these in the field and in the profession", I can easily say the same thing.

It could always boil down to whos got the best portfolio but we won't go that far tonight.

As I stated before, Fireworks is NOT for logo design. It's a second rate Web Graphics application that Macromedia thought would be a good attempt at de-throwning Photoshop. :z:

[jmayo86]

er....i think you have gone off topic now, this is discussion about software now! jeez lol

[DDD]

You're joking right?

Freehand is NOT vector.




Fireworks is a vector app. And look at your post man you said freehand is not vector. And you know nothing of my portfolio, but like you said we wont go there. Now granted FW is not as advanced as app as ILL. BUt to say it is not a vector app is wrong :trout: and to say FH is not either earned you a double :trout: :trout: . BUt BTW I rarely use it for logos, but I every now and again and you could not tell if I used it or ILL.

[jnicklo]

Sorry, I am wrong.

I DID post that Freehand isnt vector, I was wrong. I posted wrong. I KNOW freehand is vector. What I meant to type was Fireworks.

But you're still wrong man, Fireworks isnt vector. Do what I said....try the circle and you'll see.

[Krilnon]

FYI, all I did in Fireworks was change the outline color, because I didn't know how to do that in Freehand.

[DDD]

I did and have. It is a vector tool. But granted it has its limitations. I use it for layouts primarily. But I can show you some ad spots I did in FW. You would not be able to tell if I used FW or FH or AI. I am just clearing it up for the new guys who may search this post. FW is vector. Just not as capable as AI or the other big boys. I wrote a big piece on the differences in a Art Class I had I will see if I can dig it up for you guys consumption.

Hey Jnicklo-

I like your work how would you feel about a friendly battle in the near future?

[Prophet]

i take it you dont like fireworks then?? lol
oh and btw? i just did that circle thing with the elipse tool, scaled down to very small, deselected (to be fair ;)), reselected it and scaled it up far beyond 150% (maybe 10000% ish? - i used the scale tool so no exact figures) then deselected again and have a perfectly fine circle...

i dunno how YOU draw circles with out using the elipse tool but hey...

anyway!!

your first logo isnt new... at least it doesnt look it - it looks VERY familiar... not unique enough if you ask me... (but then u get free publicity from companies with same logo igues ;))
second one reminds me of the film "28 days later" and of a war...
i agree with DDD on the giving us at least SOME info on the company!
i mean you could design a really nice fluffy logo which looks nice for a heavy metal rock band - bad logo, good design... (exaggeration but uno wat i mean right?)

Prophet.

[DDD]

i take it you dont like fireworks then?? lol
oh and btw? i just did that circle thing with the elipse tool, scaled down to very small, deselected (to be fair ;)), reselected it and scaled it up far beyond 150% (maybe 10000% ish? - i used the scale tool so no exact figures) then deselected again and have a perfectly fine circle...

i dunno how YOU draw circles with out using the elipse tool but hey...



Yeah I was not quite sure what he was talking about.

[jnicklo]

Hey Jnicklo-

I like your work how would you feel about a friendly battle in the near future?

would like to see your work before that happens.

:)

[reverendflash]

You're joking right?

Freehand is NOT vector.

Anyone who told you that needs to take a long walk off a short pier or quit designing b/c thats wrong.

Fireworks is a second rate Photoshop that Macromedia figured would suffice people who're just getting into design. That's my 2 cents. DEFINATELY NOT a vector app.
Don't listen to this guy, he is talking nonsense.

jnicklo:

I really think you need to "enlarge" your views. They seem to me to be quite narrow in thier scope.

FW was/is designed specifically for the web designer. PS was/is designed for the print designer. Each has thier virtues. I'm willing to bet, that given a task, I could finish mine in half the time in FW, that it took you with PS, and you couldn't tell which was done in which program.

PS has it's virtues, for instance it is a lot more powerful than FW. However, FW has VECTOR capabilities (if you can't figure out how to use them cool, but please don't go off telling people that it is not vector). Freehand is a VECTOR application. If you don't understand what vector means, I suggest you look it up before you start shooting off your mouth, and sounding like an ignorant jackass, just spouting off to hear his head rattle.

Question: Do you use Flash? If so, how do you import into Flash from PS? Have you even tried FW to do the same things? Do you use DreamWeaver? Have you even tried to use the edit functions for FW from there, to save time?

I see a lot of strong opinions coming from you, with very little substance to back them up. People have different tastes. People like different programs. Stop being such an arse, and actually give advice that people can use, not impose your opinons as facts, and take a step down. You sound very condescending in most of your posts. I'm sure it is just your style of posting, but relax, no one here is out to get you, we are all friends here (even if you don't want to be).

and Finally, why do you have to see someone else's work before you go into a battle with them? Are you afraid of losing? Do you have to have a fairly certain win, in order to play? Isn't a battle's purpose to bring out the competitive spirit, to make someone reach deep down, to motivate to create something incredible?

If you are even half as good as you think you are, you shouldn't refuse any challenge. Especially since you seem to really enjoy confrontation. ;)

[reverendflash]

But you're still wrong man, Fireworks isnt vector.
you are so full of misinformation.


Get top-quality design results. Take creative control with vector and bitmap editing in an integrated environment.

so you are saying that Macromedia has been lying about FW since it's inception in 1998?

How could any one person have so many definitive opinions at such an early stage of thier professional career? You must have been taught by someone very wise, and very experienced for you to have formed this many concrete opinions about so many different things.

There is no way you can back up the opinions you keep stating, unless you have been designing for 10-15 years at least. You make statements that sound like you are the end-all designer, and know everything about everything there is. I'm afraid that just is not possible, unless you have the experience to back it up. Judging from the language, and your attitude, I guarantee that you don't have the time put in, that your attitude portrays.

Portfolios are cool, you can even compete with them. However, the bottom line is that you are doing what you want to do, and getting paid for it, after all. You seem to back all of your attitude up by your portfolio. Sorry, that doesn't cut it in the real world. In reality, you must have personal skills, and an open mind. Both of which you lack in large amounts.

You can have the most outrageous portfolio on the planet, but if you are an arse, you are just an arse with a good portfolio. No one likes arses.

If you took your talent, and actually helped others, rather than put them down to make yourself feel better, you'd probably be a lot happier (you never sound happy. It's always like you are always cocked, ready to go off on someone), and probably make a few more friends. I know you have issues, but I urge you to relax, and put the safety on.

[DDD]

would like to see your work before that happens.

:)

You would see my work firsthand in a battle...I have seen your arrogance/skill I was hoping to be the one to put you in your place. But I will wait for a battle I am kinda busy these days anyway.

Rev
I was trying to clean up this thread of his wrong/strong opinions on FW. Because I answer alot of questions on FW and a noob reading this post could get some bad advice from someone who I think is not a well rounded person. Thats all. I know my skills and tools set. So I dont have to defend them. I was mainly looking out for other board members who may not be as seasoned as I am in vector art or design in general.

To the New guys
Fireworks is a very capable vector tool, that is mainly geared for web presentation. While it does not have the full capabilities of Illustrator or Freehand it is still a very good app to have in the toolbox. It is never to be confused with Photoshop as they have 2 different places in the design community. They both fill a void. So in essence it would be a good idea to use them in conjunction.

[jnicklo]

Anyway, I corrected myself in saying Freehand wasnt vector. I typed the wrong application. I didnt mean to type "Freehand isnt vector". I meant to type 'Fireworks isnt vector".

Let me ask you this...


Because Photoshop has a Vector Drawing tool (pen tool, shape tool) does that mean it is a Vector application too? No. It is not.

Fireworks is NOT a vector application. It is a RASTER BASED WEB APPLICATION.

Fact of the matter is, you (a professional designer) should not be doing a logo in a raster based program anyway.

I gave the kid a critique on how to improve the logo. Thats that. So don't say I'm not helping others. Read my first post. I told him that trying a different approach to the swoosh would be a good idea.


As for me asking to see his work before I do a tennis match...Ummmm sorry there is no winner or loser in a tennis match. I however don't feel like doing a match with someone who can't cut it. I like for my tennis matches to be even. I like for them to produce great results.

For instance, I'm sure Eric Jordan, Jen Carlson or any of the other big wigs wouldn't wan't to do a match with me b/c I'd probally compromise the outcome of the battle.

Capiche?

[reverendflash]

I've deleted my posts DDD.

jnicklo, you are wrong, very wrong. FW is a vector app. FW is also a raster app.

Please give constructive advice/opinions.

[jnicklo]

You would see my work firsthand in a battle...I have seen your arrogance/skill I was hoping to be the one to put you in your place. But I will wait for a battle I am kinda busy these days anyway.

LOL ok....

since you wan't to take it SO seriously....


Do you want it to be a tennis match or a single image match?

You call it man.

I'd like to see you "put me in my place".

(Really, I would)


If you'd like we can even do a Vector based logo design battle (haha) jk

[jnicklo]

Hmmmmmm

Do you mind if I suggest doing the logo in Illustrator? What you've got is a great start but the concept is not only used but it's a tad similar to many companies out there.

What I would suggest is doing a sort of halftone screen on it. In other words each swoosh would be made up of different sized circles.

If I can find an example of this I'll post it.

Also, try incorporating some typography into it. As it stands you'll have a very hard time giving the viewer any idea of what you do or what the company does.

Get what I'm saying?


Guess thats not constructive eh?

[reverendflash]

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Guess thats not constructive eh?
you have always an arse-like attitude in your comments.

Is that intended, or natural?

[jnicklo]

Why cant you just answer my question?

I just proved that my initial post was constructive and all you have to say is some wise crack.

Come on man, I was building up a tad of respect for you.

( side note: 10k posts!!!! GEEEZ!!! THATS INSANE!)

[reverendflash]

Why cant you just answer my question?

I just proved that my initial post was constructive and all you have to say is some wise crack.

Come on man, I was building up a tad of respect for you.

( side note: 10k posts!!!! GEEEZ!!! THATS INSANE!)
I did answer your question.

One nice portion of one post does not make you a nice person.

I don't give a crap if you have any respect for me, as I don't value your opinion. See how that works? If I don't respect you, it doesn't make a bit of difference to me if you respect me...

Come on jnicklo, show us something to respect you for... Show us that you can behave like an adult. Show us that you can help, without making condescending statements about what program someone is using. Show us that you deserve respect, not demand that we show you respect.

[DDD]

Well I think this has been beat to a pulp. If he does not know FW is a vector app I dont know what to tell him. Lets let this gentleman carry on with his initial question on the logo. And like I said I do not have to defend my skills, I know what they are. You were just putting false info out there like the zooming circle crap. I was proposing a battle out of fun, not a tennis match a battle preferably a 3d one but we can do ps. And I would battle Eric Jordan also he is not that great of a designer but has a great team IMO. anyway lets all leave this thread alone.

[jnicklo]

Yeah sure, lets do 3D.

Considering I dont even a have a **** 3D program on my computer.

OH WAIT!!!! Photoshop 7 has the 3D transform filter!! That makes it a 3D app. LOL

Ok, whatever you want man. Im glad you like my work, if you'd really like to do a match lets do it on at Anticubicle.com

Rev - You DONT KNOW me. So once again stop acting as if you do. You dont post on any other forums I post at so you dont know how helpful I am.

Thanks

[DDD]

whats anticubicle......and why there? actually you can PM me. Lets let this dude have his thread back.

actually if you dont do 3d then there is no need at moment. I just need some inspiration to spark up LW again. BUt when I clear some work away we can a battle.

[reverendflash]

I only speak of what I see here.

I "know" you from here only.

If you want to be "known" as more helpful here, help more here.

Anticubicle doesn't play here. This is Kirupa. Your life outside Kirupa is of no interest to me, only how you behave here.

Just because you save a life on the way to court does not mean you will be let off for murder, due to your good deeds elsewhere.

Clear enough?

::back to topic::

[jnicklo]

Make use of yourself and give ME some constructive crits on my work. ;)

(edited: forgot the wink to denote that I'm being playful)

Particulary the 3 Ad Series I posted. (its 2 threads below this one)

[jnicklo]

Hmmmmmm

Do you mind if I suggest doing the logo in Illustrator? What you've got is a great start but the concept is not only used but it's a tad similar to many companies out there.

What I would suggest is doing a sort of halftone screen on it. In other words each swoosh would be made up of different sized circles.

If I can find an example of this I'll post it.

Also, try incorporating some typography into it. As it stands you'll have a very hard time giving the viewer any idea of what you do or what the company does.

Get what I'm saying?

*

[Prophet]

ok errrr... HELP!!! anyone!!
i feel like im reading a catfight between several teenage girls!!!

calm down people please, your disrupting the children (me :P)
everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it be "right" or "wrong", whether it be 2controversial or hypocritical etc etc...

so just calm down ppl please?

like DDD said (im startin to like u mate - u beat me to wat i wanna say!! :P) lets have this dude have his thread back rather than continue this slagging match? (oh and that was NOT an invitation for you guys (and gals?) to start slagging me off!! lol

Prophet.

[Krilnon]

Yay! I get my thread back.

Well, the site that the logo is for is my site, Reclipse. Its a design/portfolio place, like many of you guys have I guess. I don't know of any design site's logo that has anything to do with expressing a meaning of design. (kinda hard to convey through images)

I'll be working on a more creative logo (I thought the original was creative, but I guess I was wrong) and I should post it soon.

[DDD]

I personally think your logo is creative and distinct. But expand on it with some type. Like I said the wrong font and position can make or break the design. A logo with out a font is hard to judge.

Give us more to go on. I dont think you should abandon it just yet.

[jnicklo]

swooshes arent very creative.

[reverendflash]

jnicklo:

Give accurate, constructive advice. Your above post is neither constructive, or accurate.

WARNING: you have 2 choices. either become a positive influence, and stop giving inaccurate, purely personal, extremely opinionated comments, or leave Kirupaforum.

You get to decide which.

::back to topic::

I agree with DDD. Show us more with a font or so...

[jnicklo]

I think, that you can be much more creative than a simple swoosh.

Many companies out there, whether design related or not use simple swooshes.

What I suggest you go for is an incorporation of the swoosh into typography.

They call this "substitutions".

You can use your swoosh (or a variation of it) in your initials, your company name ect.

Right now, it's just a swoosh. I feel it will easily be replicated, easily mistaken for something else and it won't have much of a wow-factor.

That's just my opinion, take it or leave it.

Hope that has helped.

[DDD]

What I suggest you go for is an incorporation of the swoosh into typography.




I personally think your logo is creative and distinct. But expand on it with some type. Like I said the wrong font and position can make or break the design. A logo with out a font is hard to judge.

Isnt that what I said already? Yet you posted that sly remark about my post. Man you are seriously skating on thin ice here.

[jnicklo]

I'm going to do the same thing I do for other people struggling with logo design.


Direct them to one of the best books of all time.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1564969096/qid=1087148228/sr=8-6/ref=pd_ka_6/002-2615627-2940862?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

I personally own this book and not only has it been a GREAT source of inspiration but it also has showed me what logo WILL work and what WILL not.

Great resource.

But basically, I do think you need to TOTALLY forget any effects, glows, bevels or whatnot.

This will give your logo a professional look.

[Krilnon]

I think it looks better if its not just a plain vector image. Besides, I don't know how to fill my image in with Freehand, or take away any part of it besides a whole circle.

[d100763]

this thread got jacked...are you guys gonna battle it out?

[Krilnon]

I'm not going to let anyone steal it.

[McGiver]

I'm not going to let anyone steal it.by the way, did I show you my new logo?! :bandit:

[DDD]

what you basically want to do is use the subtraction tool to recreate your image. In illustrator they are call the pathfinder tools. It sounds like you should look in the help files of freehand and look up path manipulation.

[jnicklo]

good call D, also another way he could do it is by using 6 circles, every other one is the blue.

Then position them to sort of "eclipse" the others.

Then merge the circles

[Krilnon]

McGiver, I was talking about people not stealing the thread.

DDD, sounds good.

jnicklo, The image that I made was made using 6 circles, but maybe not in the way you are saying.

[r3v0lut1on]

overlapping circles.. hmm. i think u need to build off of what u have there. you are heading in the right direction but don't stop there. my 2 cents.

[Krilnon]

Thanks, now the hard part is thinking up original ways to do so. (Don't give me ideas on a new design though, I want it to be my creativity.)

[Krilnon]

Ok, I worked some more and came up with this.


Thoughts?

[DDD]

I dont like that.....I like what you had going in the beginning. Also I think you are working a little backwards by not include you type in the logo. A good font can make a dull logo look awesome. ANd vice versa.

[Krilnon]

I liked what I had in the beginning too. I'll just stick to that and try to improve it.

What do you think of this? Wouldn't be a final design, but do you like it better with or without the lines? (I could reposition them if you think that would make it look better)

[DDD]

Honestly I would say take that original image you showed. Find a good way to incorporate your type. Then trickle down from there. IMO the original was a good spring board. And the lines just add to much noise and complication. SO I would say dont use them. Find a good font to go with your initial concept. If you need help turning it vector I can help you there.

[Krilnon]

Umm... Turning the logo to vector?

[pixi]

Nice design dude, just be careful about the shape and colours, they look very similar to overture http://www.content.overture.com/d/

p.s Flash illustrator and feehand all are vector appz and make for great brand dev tools

design-on. pix.

[Krilnon]

Ooh. Finally I can see what another logo that is apparently similar looks like. I can rotate mine so it looks dissimilar. I've always loved light blue as a color, so I don't think I'll be changing that.

[DDD]

yeah thats dangerously close man. Overture is a bigtime compay also. Becareful. But I can see the difference and plus you guys are not the same industry so I think you are safe.

[Krilnon]

I hate how its so hard to be original these days. I've spent hours trying to incorporate the "C" looking shape into cool logo's. You guys seem to think that the three things in my logo are "swooshes", when in actuality they are supposed to be recurring eclipse's. (Thus the name "Reclipse")

I think that when you hear why my logo is how it is, you can see its originality, and what thought processes I went through to come up with it. Any how, Overture's logo is made up of "O" that are not overlapping at all. They only have 2 circles anyway.

What do you think of these two variations?

[paddy.]

I think you have made a good start but a logo must be very distinctive to be recognized without some sort of type included. Some examples of this type of logo are:
-NIKE: The tick is very distinctive and one of a kind.
-The Quiksilver wave/mountain: Again this is one of a kind and recognizable because of the company's success.
-The Mercedes logo: Very distinctive and singular.

As you can see, most companies who use wordless logos are big, BIG companies. However I believe that some of the best logos consist of a graphical representation of the name of the company or its initials.

I received quite alot of praise for my logo for Urban Echo (my design company) which is simply the words 'Urban Echo Design' written in a distinctive and stylised way. I have attached the logo for you to see and could mock up some Reclipse logos if you'd like using your colours and shapes (+ maybe some of my own) so you can get an idea of where to head with your logo.

[paddy.]

Here's a mock up of your logo with some type on it. It's not very exciting but you seem to be going for a clean minimalist look.The font is Alba - get it at dafont.com

[slayerment]

I think your first logo was the best looking. I am not super good at making logos, but I think it's a tad boring right now. It needs a different type of angle or some depth or something I think. Maybe even a shadow (not a drop shadow, an actual shadow). The overture logo is scaled up a bit and it makes it have a fresh appearance. I think something like this, but not copying, would be sweet - just something to make it more dynamic. But yeah, it's looking cool :).

[gheckman]

After reading this post, I wanted to give my hand a try. I like the start of what you have kid.. i just added some pizzaz to it. :thumb: Although i just copied yoru image from the web page and did everything in Photoshop, If I were you, i would retrace it in Illustrator.

Anyway, Hope you like my ideas and input.

[paddy.]

The first one (on the left) is better.

[MrMass]

I like the logo, but somehow reminds of the new generation macromedia products...like a small dreamwaver logo....well its that style....I like the first logo better then the ones you did after this....yeas it would be so easy to manipulate this logo in illustrator....I would make white background, and I would play with colors, right now u have one color. how about putting opacity down to 80% and the other one 60% with a nice typeface saying the name of ur company.....

and about the softwares my opinion is that your best solution is AI, cause I use fireworks to optimize....for me is the same as image ready and freehand I dont touch anymore, I use to work 24 7 with freeehand and I didnt like the fact that sometimes when u try to mask within freehand and import that to illustrator it looked very busy, and it took me hours to clean my objects...I find illustrator much better :P

peace

[mlk]

i'd say keep your initial logo, clean and without any gimmicks - but work on the typography a lot !!

Here's a variation to give you an idea...

[MrMass]

here is my try in 10 mintes :P

[pixi]

Much better Typog Mr Mass, looking VERY similar to the old Macromedia range Brands( freehand especially)

[MrMass]

thanks hope it helps :P

[pixi]

Hi Krilnon, pixi again .. I first supplied you the link for overture, well er sorry mate , heres another one just to peess you off ( top of the pops - been going since the late 60's)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/ Hope I didint bust your bubble. pix.

[Krilnon]

Hehehe. No, you didn't bust any bubbles, I'll just think of some other things.

[XPeriment_22]

ur logo--Comcast meets sega dreamcast

http://www.system-cfg.com/photos/sega_dreamcast_4.jpghttp://www.dctma.org/Comcast%20Logo.jpg

[Krilnon]

I see the similarities.

[XPeriment_22]

im not saying its a bad logo or anything, just when i saw it those 2 things popped into my head! :hugegrin:

[Krilnon]

Here is another design that I'm thinking about.

[shack]

Hi everyone!
I really liked the ones that MrMass made, especially the first, wich font is that you are using? I liked the one mlk made aswell, actually I kind of liked them all :P keep up the good work people!

[XPeriment_22]

Krilnon, are you planning on copyrighting your logos? and if yes-all of them? or just one?

[d100763]

I hate to be an ***-hole, but it looks like the mickey mouse head with the big ears. I like your earlier versions better.
http://www.mousestars.com/images/mmclogo.jpg

[gheckman]

I hate to be an ***-hole, but it looks like the mickey mouse head with the big ears. I like your earlier versions better.
http://www.mousestars.com/images/mmclogo.jpg


I'd have to agree to this post myself. Mickey was the first thing that popped into my mind.

[Krilnon]

Krilnon, are you planning on copyrighting your logos? and if yes-all of them? or just one?
Yes, all of the ones that were not discarded quickly. Trying to steal one or something?


Why were you guys thinking of Mickey Mouse? wtf?
Maybe I'll rotate it so it doesn't look like him.

[XPeriment_22]

what do you mean by all of the ones that were not discarded quickly?

[Krilnon]

The ones that were pretty much abandoned.

[XPeriment_22]

so, ur going to copyright ALL of them?

[REEF·]

Here's one. Looks good in all colors, sizes and effects :). Small and easy to change :). You probably won't like it but here it is anyways.

[XPeriment_22]

looks like napsta
http://thm-br1r2.search.vip.scd.yahoo.com/image/87798434

[REEF·]

Looks nothing like it. What are you talking about. Just case I have a face logo?

[RadioactveChimp]

Mr. Mass made some good ones. I see no problem with it looking like Mickey or Dreamcast lol.

[XPeriment_22]

because of the face, round shape, and those things sticking out of the sides look like headphones! thats my opinion, and your not gonna change it!

[CanadianGuy]

Krilnon I'd love to see some text in there somewhere. Until you add some text I'm really on the fence with this one.

Jnicklo what's your problem? I haven't been around the K-forums much lately but I remember when you first came here and you got into a big hub-bub about "not backing down to moderators" or something along those lines and then you went back to BB whining and complaining. Why do you get so upset by what people post on these forums?

[REEF·]

Well you have a really messed up opinion...

I'd say the logo I made looks nothing like napsters logo, and it looks better.

[XPeriment_22]

{sharif} watever..doesnt matter anyway, r u planning on copyrighting it?

[REEF·]

Why should I?

If he wants to use it he can without any credit - I'll tell people I made it though :P. But what will copyrighting it do?

It's not like reclipse is my company...

[XPeriment_22]

well, it is your creation..and right now, if you don't copyright it, anyone can take it. even some guest just browsing through the forums, and he/she will take all the credit for it.

[pixi]

play nice kids...

[XPeriment_22]

what seems to be the problem pixi?

[REEF·]

22 - You're absolutely right. But what's going to happen if I put a little copyright text next to it?

Nothing. Anyone can still take it, change it up and say it's theres. I don't mind. In my mind and on this forums, everyone knows I made it ;).

So if some loser, no skilled, desperate "designer" wants to take it, it's all theres to use :).

[XPeriment_22]

well, ok, if u dont have any problems with it, i guess its allright.

**how did you write Ms.PShop.07412 under your nickname?**

[REEF·]

What are you talking about :P?

[XPeriment_22]

under Sharif, it says Mr.PShop.07412..how did u do that? how did u write Mr.PShop.07412 under your name?

[REEF·]

By going to profile, and editing my avatar text :P.

[XPeriment_22]

thnx

[XPeriment_22]

Krilnon I'd love to see some text in there somewhere. Until you add some text I'm really on the fence with this one.

Jnicklo what's your problem? I haven't been around the K-forums much lately but I remember when you first came here and you got into a big hub-bub about "not backing down to moderators" or something along those lines and then you went back to BB whining and complaining. Why do you get so upset by what people post on these forums?
what did jnicklo say?:q:

[Krilnon]

"swooshes arent very creative."

I believe that is what he said.



well, it is your creation..and right now, if you don't copyright it, anyone can take it. even some guest just browsing through the forums, and he/she will take all the credit for it.
I still have all of the psd's, .fh11's, and other related things to prove that I made it.

[XPeriment_22]

ohh, ok thats good:cap:

[Krilnon]

It looks like I've finally settled on a final design. Only minor tweaks will be made on this one, no major overhauls. What do you think?

[REEF·]

This design looks a little too empty as your logos. The lines are way too thin. You should really take a look at what Mass and I created and make something better out of it.

The font for one on this logo looks wrong, the color looks wrong. The edges look jagged. And the 2 outer curves look out of porportion.

Just tryin' to help.

[Jeff Wheeler]

yeah, add some more blur to it like the others

[Krilnon]

The jagged edges are due to the fact that I haven't smoothed them or anything. The colors will be changed to fit with my new site layout.

Once you see it in context with its positioning on the site I think you'll see more of what I was trying to do.

[astone78]

Nice logo, initially it reminded me of the Columbus Coluseum Columbus Ohio logo by Chermeyeff and Geismar. The shapes reflect the "CCCO", the first letters in the name...The second rendition reminds me of a biohazard sign, which is based on an old Japanese family symbol. It's very interesting...

[Krilnon]

Text Variations. Better or worse?

[Disco-Stu]

Honestly, I'd go with something similar to MrMass' post. Keep the original, and highlight a middle ring with a color. Then put in some neat typog. The current one leaves me a little confused...

[Krilnon]

I'm going to use my own ideas.

[Disco-Stu]

I got ya. Then forget MrMass. I'd definitly change it up a bit though. The current state is a little messy looking. Your original logo kicks ***.

[Krilnon]

Everyone was complaining about the original one not being so "original" though.

[Disco-Stu]

It's up to you man. :) I just liked the original.

[XPeriment_22]

well, do wat u wanna..but ur first one was THE best in my opinion, its modern, sleek and creative. These variations dont seem to have the same appeal as the original one. I think your site would benefit very much from the first one, rather than these last few attempts.

[REEF·]

Yea I agree with 22. The first was better than what you had.

[Krilnon]

I guess I'll stick with that then.

Any suggestions on how to smooth it nicely? (Or better methods of going from FH to Photoshop)

[REEF·]

To make it smooth, keep making circles using the elliptical marquee tool in photoshop. After the first circle, contract your circle so its smaller, bring it down to delete and then you have the first earring type of shape. Repeat ;).

[Krilnon]

How do I guarantee that the circle is a 1:1 ratio?

[REEF·]

You mean exact circle? You can hold shift as you drag a marquee tool.

[Krilnon]

Ooooh thanks, I always wondered how to do that.

[REEF·]

Lol - you can do that for any time you make anything. Also hold shift when you want to make an object bigger/smaller at the same ratio of their width and height. Whatever you get the idea :P.

[color_loser_pup]

krilnon, when is your new site going to be up? i really want to see how you are going to incorporate the logo with the rest of your site! :mu: