some more on M$ -> MM

[senocular]

hot from the media 100 mailing list:

> I was at a meeting with several fairly high level Microsoft sales
> people. My is this an arrogant breed.
>
> One was spouting about their recent purchase of Intuit and soon to be
> Macromedia. Their plan is to force users to deploy and view on
> Microsoft products. Macromedia is threatening because their
> best-of-breed products work on all platforms with all kinds of
> servers. Soon ColdFusion and Flash may be stuck sending/retrieving
> data from expensive SQLServer databases rather than free mySQL.
>
> This is very scary stuff. Microsoft is becoming like a shadow
> government where a business tax is being imposed on EVERYONE.
>
> I found out today that the cost of the MS software only on a pretty
> limited web connected database will be $5500 and soon there will be no
> options if Gates&Co have their way.
>
> I'm writing my congressmen.
>
>
> RT


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[Guig0]

:(

[SureShot]

OH Man, this could get pretty bad...

Thanks for the update man

[mdipi]

oh well...what can you do? our government is not supposed to interfere with a monoploly...:( i say we write to mm and have ALL of us sign it...other wise our comps are going to look like this :skull:

[sintax321]

MS is really pissing me off. We need to put a stop to this quick ppl:run:

[lostinbeta]

Can anyone say...


INTERVENTION!!!!


Bill Gate$ needs to get slapped :trout:


<MARQUEE DIRECTION="right">:run: LET'S GO PEOPLE!!! :run:</MARQUEE>

[Guig0]

that thing with the run smilie is way cool! =)

[lostinbeta]

LOL.... thanks, it is just an HTML marquee tag, very tacky, but still fun to play with.

[Guig0]

that is why it is cool, if it was flash then it would be nothing much.

[Jubba]

actually dipi... the government is supposed to interfere if they feel that a company is beginning to become a monopoly. However, the execs at MS have probably paid off most of the politicians so they will be able to do whatever they want anyway. It wouldn't be so bad if MS products were quality...but MS sucks...

[RenaissanceGirl]

Dude, Microsoft IS the government.

MS-free since August 2002,
Rengirl
(except at work, where they force me to use this crap)

[senocular]

...hmmm I want to be a paid off polititian!

[Jubba]

I just want to be paid. I don't care if I'm a parachute tester... as long as I'm gettin' some money...

[reverendflash]

I'm thinking of applying for the gov't to pay me to not grow corn...

Could be my ticket to a lazy lifestyle... only with nice thangs...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[Jubba]

Originally posted by reverendflash
I'm thinking of applying for the gov't to pay me to not grow corn...
???

[reverendflash]

Jubba:

the gov't each year, pays a certain number of farmers to not grow corn/wheat/beans, and let thier land go fallow. It's their warped idea of subsidizing Agriculture in America...

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[mdipi]

Reverend,
Do you EVEN farm? lol. Jubba yeah i dont know, i learnd something in school about it. donno though...it was at the begining of the year. But didnt MS win that monopoly trail last/2 year(s) ago?

[Jubba]

Thats a good plan Rev, we should go into business together... :)

Dipi: They won that case because M$ appealed to a higher court and the higher court determined that M$ was not a monopoly. They won because they most likely paid off the judges. Its sad that we live in a world where you can do anything if you have enough money.

[Jubba]

Also Dipi: not to steal your thunder but you will find out eventually that not everything your teachers tell you is true. Many teachers are not exactly qualified for their jobs and try more to impose their opinions on their students rather than facts. Also, things you are taught when you are younger will contradict things that you are taught later in life. When you are younger schools give you the simple basics of certain subjects and when you get older you will be taught something that will contradict what you previously knew. To live is to learn.

I still have to re-learn many of the things that I was 'taught' in high school...

[mdipi]

oh i know that already. but see my mom told me this while we were talking about books, advice from her HS teacher:

<hr>
Absolutly nothing in life is fact, only opinion. If you were to line 10 people up and have them witness something, then question them on it, you would get totaly different responses from everybody, but they will all be along the same lines. This is because everone has their own background that they come from, everyone is raised differently therefore everybody sees things differently, so you really cant trust the facts because they are really just opinions.
<hr>

[Jubba]

Well I can't agree with that statement because it is too broad. Cold hard facts do exist, its just that they are hidden behind miles and miles of opinions.

[senocular]

Originally posted by mdipi.com

<hr>
Absolutly nothing in life is fact, only opinion. If you were to line 10 people up and have them witness something, then question them on it, you would get totaly different responses from everybody, but they will all be along the same lines. This is because everone has their own background that they come from, everyone is raised differently therefore everybody sees things differently, so you really cant trust the facts because they are really just opinions.
<hr>

lol I dont believe that. No offense but you cant say facts dont exist. If they didnt some idiot wouldnt have coined the term. You can get into this whole philosophy about things but often you find yourself rooted on the very definition of human language/understanding. There are opinions - these are bits of information which can be 'technically correct' though different among sources and then there are facts where there is one 'technical correct' definition or truth which can then be supported by other facts either true or false. 10 witnesses can spew out all the facts they want - doesnt mean any of them are true. Then again it doesnt mean they're false. Their backgrounds can be influencial in how they interpret the truth or fact, but it doesnt justify it as being an opinion either.

You can also have differing point of views or different languages all explaining the same occurance. Because they are said or presented differently doesnt make them opinions or any further from what could justly be a truthful fact.

preferences are opinions
recollections are facts (usually false ;))

[mdipi]

i am not talking about PROVEN facts, i am talking about things in history, and talking to ppl, like historical interviews...

[senocular]

then thats just false (or 'unproven' for that matter) facts :-\

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by Jubba
Also Dipi: not to steal your thunder but you will find out eventually that not everything your teachers tell you is true. Many teachers are not exactly qualified for their jobs and try more to impose their opinions on their students rather than facts. Also, things you are taught when you are younger will contradict things that you are taught later in life. When you are younger schools give you the simple basics of certain subjects and when you get older you will be taught something that will contradict what you previously knew. To live is to learn.

I still have to re-learn many of the things that I was 'taught' in high school...

Ya know... even in my high school history books they teach that Christopher Columbus was in fact the first person to discover what we now know as North America. When he didn't!!!! Never made sense to me.

[mdipi]

i was taught that in 4th grade...i think my history teacher is the only person i know of (in terms of teachers) that would challenge this (cause its false), he is always challenging things in history and having us do it too...he is neat cause he gets SO into it and just loves it so much...