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Marz
January 23rd, 2003, 09:38 PM
Interetsing topic but anyways..
Been busy lately working with a new client... He's been wanting me to hook up his company with like.. 25 new computers.. CAT5 networking.. DSL connections and all this other bullcrap.. The computers came in.. ALl with Win 98 on it and the guy wnatd XP.. So now I have to go and get 25 licenses from microsoft for upgrading to Xp and do it to each and every one of them...
Phew.. I still have a good bit of work to do this week and next so I'll be busy..
Beds? Well I haven't seen mine lately? Have you guys?
hehe
Peace
SureShot
January 23rd, 2003, 09:52 PM
Well first off - congrats on the work!
Second of all - DAMN. That's a lot of formatting and re-installing!
Makaveli
January 23rd, 2003, 10:37 PM
did i hear mention of beds?? i would like some sleep now....i've got 2 exams 2morrow.....and i dind't even do my essay......
mjULTRA
January 24th, 2003, 06:52 PM
wait, lemme get this straight.. He was able to get computers that didn't have XP on them, and he wants you to Change it to XP?
I am shocked, as i absolutely hate XP, and their damn error message fiasco, among other things...
RenaissanceGirl
January 24th, 2003, 06:54 PM
Phil - ever heard of backing up your files?
Guig0
January 24th, 2003, 06:55 PM
xp sucks :x:
win2000 is the best option on m$ softwares (or win98).
Jubba
January 24th, 2003, 07:01 PM
yeah I run win98SE. One of the most stable OS out there... 2000 is pretty good too. ME was crap. XP pro can be good if you treat it right, but if I could get 98SE for free....why would I pay extra for XP? especially when I hate the way it looks...
Guig0
January 24th, 2003, 07:07 PM
the look of the XP is a copy of the Mac OS design...
bad M$ ! :P
reverendflash
January 24th, 2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl
Phil - ever heard of backing up your files?
ROFLMAO
:beam: :beam: :beam: :whistle: :whistle:
:cowboy:
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senocular
January 24th, 2003, 07:52 PM
omg
I love XP. Ive gone through them all and XP is by far the best. At work Im constantly bouncing around on 6+ machines with Mac OS 9 (YACK) Mac OS X (decent, love the move to bsd, but still lacks), Windows 95 (basic setup so I cant complain), Windows 2000 (quirky) and WinXP (no problems at all). The XP is what Im on now and the one I prefer to be on most, and its a 'testing' machine - a bottom of the line HP. It has no problems and hasnt crashed on me yet. Needless to say each and everyone of the others have. 2000 probably less though it still fs up with some programs at times. OS X isnt THAT stable - at least not when you actually have to do real work on it. And well os9 and below just blows.
Dont get me wrong, I absolutely hate M$ but Im gonna have to stick to my belief that XP is the best os theyve released. Across 3 seperately configured machines (including this one) Ive had absolutely no problems with it. Im surprised to see so many other people not liking it. And those whom Ive know who have similar feelings usually do so out of ignorance and through the 'M$ influence' (not to imply anyone here to be similar as Im in no position to make that judgement).
weird :-\
Jubba
January 24th, 2003, 07:57 PM
XP home? or PRO? Home is trash in my opinion. It locked up and crashed on me, from Day 1. Pro is really good and very stable in most respects... I like pro, but I like the layout and the usability of 98 better. I have been using it for almost 5 years now...I better know it inside and out...
Marz
January 24th, 2003, 08:06 PM
:run: :scream: :bounce:
Yeah.. Windows Xp Pro is alot more stable but I've worked with Home as well and have had 0 problems with it.. I still like my 98/SE at home better..
BUTTT...
This is what they want so this is what I'm going to give them.. You know what I mean?!
They are paying me enough to do this soo.. =) I'm gonna do it.. and every hour is another $30 in my pocket.. *lol*
Peace Out
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 08:08 PM
both.
current computer (work tester) is home
my personal computers (2 that have xp) are pro
my brother has home - no problems there (even when I visit and screw w/ it)
my mothers 2 most recent computers (old and current) were/are 98SE. They crash all the time. The one shes using now will lock up after being on for about a day. I had similar problems with my 98/98SE (on two different machines - including one that has pro now w/o a hitch).
.. Id throw in my grandfathers computer in the lot too but he has so much crap on that thing (the system tray consumes half the taskbar on loadup) that it deserves to crash (and does - 98SE)
old people :sigh: ;)
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 08:11 PM
Microsoft is the BEST company!
( chaching! :wallet fattens: )
;) playamarz
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 08:16 PM
lol sen...:bad:
Yeah i am running XPHome...I LOVE IT! i have tested it to the max so many times and i have had NO problems AT ALL! Compaired to my old ME this is like a Rolls-Royce...i love it and would only trade it for Pro...but i wouldnt mind OS X too...(but if i get to keep my XP too)
edit: sen my school insits on running OS8/9, when ever i use one of the IMACS they are using (OLD CRAPS) i want to puke,one time when i was in the lab this year i almost fainted as soon as i got on one lol...for real...i think it was switching from my 1024 res back to a 800 res cause i had the same symptoms when i switched this res to the 1024...but still, i think it was the OS and crappyness too...lol
reverendflash
January 24th, 2003, 08:23 PM
Mdipi:
When I went to design school, they were using OS8 on PowerMac 250's w/32M RAM...
Try opening Photoshop, Dreamweaver and have the OS running...
I dare you...
They had to be the slowest computers I have ever worked on...
In a Graphics Design School...
;)
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senocular
January 24th, 2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by mdipi.com
lol sen...:bad:
Yeah i am running XPHome...I LOVE IT! i have tested it to the max so many times and i have had NO problems AT ALL! Compaired to my old ME this is like a Rolls-Royce...i love it and would only trade it for Pro...but i wouldnt mind OS X too...(but if i get to keep my XP too)
yeah Im actually fairly impressed with OS X. Im not an apple fan but this was a nice move and opens up a lot to what Apple can become. For as 'young' as it is (being an apple os at least) Im pleased. The hardware needs to get cooking to be able to handle it as well as it should, and there are some little nuiances which can drive you wild (like making a new folder). But all in all its a decent system. Im not too fond of the dock - wasnt much of a NeXT fan either. But its a needed Apple taskbar. A floating ASM just didnt cut it for me in 9 and below, though I still use the ASM in X ;) I might splurge and get myself a new powerbook heh. Thats one thing Apple has going for it is style. The backlit keyboard made me cream my pants. Ok not really but it was funny to see that one guys reaction in the movie they have at the apple website showing the new powerbooks off.
but yeah, XP still holds the throne. And thats my opinion. (not fact :beam: )
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 08:52 PM
lol, me too. i am getting a powerbook cause with any luck i will get into the school i want *knock on wood* and they require it. it will be nice cause i have never used anything but OS 8/9.
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 08:56 PM
yeah that would be nice ;)
the new 17incher is like $4k though lol - a little out of my range :checks the pennies in his pocket: Hmm looks like Ill get one of those new Tiger (game) computers instead.
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 09:00 PM
lol yeah, i want the big boy 17" too...i mean 17" on a NOTEBOOK! i could do all my work on that comp that i can on my Dtop and with just a 2" smaller screen!
Edit: AND A GeFORCE 4?! THATS LIKE MY DTOP TIMES 2!
RenaissanceGirl
January 24th, 2003, 09:02 PM
I'm so with you guys on the 17" PB. Whoowee - that is one sweet hunk of metal! But I'm still working on getting the iPod...
I love OSX - haven't had a problem with it so far and I've been pushing it really hard. OS9 is ok... I actually prefer the much simpler interface. I haven't tried anything older than that.
As far as Windows goes - any version of Windows is stable while it's fresh. When you throw other programs in the mix (Photoshop, Flash, just about anything) - it gets crazy on you... especially if the program happens to be a competitor (like Netscape, etc). Yet another facet to the unfair practices of MS...
kirupa
January 24th, 2003, 09:34 PM
I use XP Home, and I think it has to be one of the best OSes MS has released. I am not a big fan of the interface so I set the views to Classic and the Start menu to advanced aka Win 98/ME style. Guess I was one of the lucky ones who didn't have too many problems with XP :)
Cheers!
Kirupa :ub:
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 10:12 PM
yeah I use a classic start menu too. I have the most most used applications directly accessible from the first click of the startmenu (theres about 30 there) then the secondary apps in the actual programs menu - probably about 25 there, then the 'accessories' menu which has mostly configuration links and drivers settings/utilites etc coming from that. And thats at the bottom so it can be gotten easily from a direct programs menu rollout.
[start]
-app-
-app-
-app-|-app-
-app-|-app-
-app-|-app-|-app-
-app-|-app-|-app-
-app-|-app-|-app-
progr>Acces>-app-
I dont want to have to click more than I have to - thats one thing I didnt like about macs - too much clicking and only a single button mouse :!:
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 10:19 PM
yes i need the two buttons...that is my only complant...
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 10:40 PM
I have trouble when I dont have my 6 lol
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 10:45 PM
lol i have seen 3 over my friends house, for maya. but 6, i dont know if i need copy and paste buttons THAT much, i can easily right click and do it ;)
senocular
January 24th, 2003, 11:12 PM
omg, no its insane! you never know how much you use it (or can use it) until you ahve that at your finger tips! wheeeew its a shame to have to right click, wait for the menu and select copy, then rightclick again! and select paste. And they are good in games too, copy is jump in ut heh. enter I use all the time too... like copying a url to a im window ZING thank you my 3 extra buttons. They were a blessing in flash 5 code editing too! Mx has a much nicer editor with ctrl movement copying etc, but it did wonders then (still used excessively in mx too).
I guess its just one of those little things you get accustomed to. Its not that big of a deal and you only miss it when you have it and then its taken away.
... but on the subject of maya... I hate working in maya for an extended amount of time then using something else like a web browser then trying to navigate a page like in maya... ZOOM DAMMIT WHY WONT YOU ZOOM!! ... :thinks: oh yeah http://userpages.umbc.edu/~tmccau1/images/smilies/doh.gif
mdipi
January 24th, 2003, 11:16 PM
lol i feel you there...hmm thats cool, i got two mice hooked up to my PC now, but i only use my Wacom mouse cause its better for games, the buttons are like just donno, better, my ms one like just dont always shoot, maybe cause its wireless?
morse
January 25th, 2003, 02:22 AM
2k takes the cake. It's NT based. Plus you have the 98 feel with NTFS. Never Ever go back to FAT. Speaking of start menus, I have all of my programs on my quick launch, and then an extra tear for all of my windows. Works really well.
morse
January 25th, 2003, 02:23 AM
BTW yall know that M$ makes Mac OS right?
Marz
January 25th, 2003, 08:51 AM
I'm still trying to think about why everyone hates Microsoft...
Because they are extremely successful? Of course programs they make should work better on their systems... They know every little thing bout their systems and therefore should know how to make better programs... I never had any problems with the function of my Windows machines with other programs either...
Macro. Flash MX works perfectly
Netscape works fine on mine
Photoshop is a speed demon
3D Studio max works like a charm
It most likely depends more on your system than the actual OS at times and most people don't see that...
As for the Mac's.. They are allright.. But I personally wouldn't shell out the extra dough for one when I can just build a brand new top-of-the-line PC for around $700-800. Sure they are lovely at graphics, music and movies.. But I just can't afford one... I did have an OS8 one though... And it ran kind-a crappy... Hopefully the X version is alot more stable..
Peace
Guig0
January 25th, 2003, 11:47 AM
the windows 2000 is entirely based on linux plataform, infact it was developed by Linus himself, that at the time (and is till now) part of the M$ team.
and XP is the same, but newer ~doh.
thatīs why they are the best M$ OS ever.
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