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nobody
August 15th, 2003, 02:19 PM
Last night during the big power outtage thing I had to go to work. My boss was running the place with the generator as he normally does during outtages. Well I had to work the frier like I had been for the previous 9 months. Unfortunately the generator didn't have enough juice to power the frier and the fan. So I was working where it was probably like 120+ degrees. Then my boss just left us there and didn't tell us where he went but it was total bull**** that he did that and it really pissed me off.. he should have to suffer like we did. So after a couple hours I just walked out. I walked home. I don't know what I was thinking or anything but I feel like I really messed up. I called him up about half an hour ago and asked if I still worked there and he said no. It sucks because we were sort of like a family there. I really respected my coworkers and we got along great. My boss was also a good friend to me, or so I thought. I know he had every right to let me go, I just don't know what to do.

So I'm asking you guys if you think I did the wrong thing or what and if you have any ideas on what I should do now.

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 02:23 PM
you shouldn't have walked out.

senocular
August 15th, 2003, 02:27 PM
Hmm. Well I would not have done that, but considering the circumstances Im not shocked you did. I would have stuck it out and really given boss-man some grief about it - you know something to hold against him and possibly a reason for lenience in the future.... "well remember that one day? I deserve to leave early today!"

But you know, you can only take so much of crap like that. Theres a tolerance level for everything. Looks like you just need to find yourself a better job? :-\ could be just the opportunity you need to get a better job... or something.

morse
August 15th, 2003, 02:37 PM
Yea you can find a better place to work.

thoriphes
August 15th, 2003, 02:42 PM
Agreed. You shouldn't have left. He was probably just hot-headed that day because of the outtage and the fact that you guys run a restaurant where it doesn't get any cooler.

Oh well, just look for another job for next summer. School's coming up anyway.

prstudio
August 15th, 2003, 02:42 PM
would not have walked out

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 02:45 PM
I think you made a very wrong choice. You are an employee that is hired to do a job and sometimes you have to do it under adverse circumstances. Walking out showed your lack of respect for your boss, co-workers, and your job. While you left your co-works, or what you call your so called 'family' had to make up for your lack of effort and do your work. He did the smart thing not letting you come back, that would show the other workers that your lack of professionality is acceptable, which it should never be how close a relationship is. Don't be mad at him for being a boss, it's his job and if he let being 'friends' with an employee get in the way of his job, then he doesn't deserve his position as anyone's boss. A job is a source of money, health benefits, and other things adults need eventually. If you treat is immaturely and not uphold your part then you will be dropped from it. Life isn't peaches, grow up and learn from your mistakes. This will just be a learning experience, maybe a bad one, but at least you know not to apply for a job unless you are mature enough to handle an adult situation.

Sorry if I sound like a prick, but that is my opinion on your situation.

reverendflash
August 15th, 2003, 02:53 PM
dan is right.

disrespect in any form is a bad thing. I would never have let an employee come back to work, no matter how good they were (I worked in retail)...

live and learn...

and FYI - being a boss does have some perks... being able to leave when it is absolutely hellishly hot, is one of them. He also has to stay when something/someone goes wrong. Now he has to cover your shift as well.

just a diff point of view

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nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:22 PM
Yeah you guys are right, i realize I did the wrong thing. I'm also 90% sure that it was illegal for him to ask me to work in conditions like that. Still your right it's not right what I did but I just kind of got pushed over the top. Also, this isn't the first time, it's the 3rd time this has happened. I've also let him know how I felt in the past, but it didn't get through to him. Oh well time to move one. Blah

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:23 PM
wait how old are you? And what kind of job were you doing?

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:25 PM
I'm 16 and I worked on a frier. I think it was illegal because we didn't have enough juice with the generator to power the fans. So I'm thinkin that that's illegal since it was probably a good 120 degrees where I was.

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:27 PM
well you're supposed to be 18 to work with friers (if my memory serves) but the conditions you were in aren't really illegal. There are many that face worse conditions every day...

reverendflash
August 15th, 2003, 03:28 PM
in CA, and in Hawaii, that is not illegal. It would have to be written into the labor statutes, and it so rarely comes up, it never gets added. It could have been a fire issue, without the fans, but that is prob all.

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nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:28 PM
Yeah I know the conditions can get much worse and I'm not like a **** who thinks the world owes me. But like I know what I can take and what I can't and that just happened to be what I couldn't.

So can I have a job at your McDonald's Jubba? I won't walk out I promise =)

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:28 PM
I.E. Contruction workers, landscapers, firemen. . . .

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by xxviii
So can I have a job at your McDonald's Jubba? I won't walk out I promise =)

I don't work at McDonalds anymore... I walked out. :P

Not really. I found another job, and gave advanced warning to McDonalds. :)

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:30 PM
You guys I'm seriously not saying I had it worse than everyone. I don't think I deserve anything for putting up with it either. I just made a decision based on what I felt was wrong.

Congrats Jubba! I like the subtle-ness of the advanced warning. Next time..

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:32 PM
There have been times I wanted to walk out, and times that I was actually on my way out the door when I decided that it wasn't worth it and then I went back to work and finished the day.. Then I just *****ed at my boss for being such a moron..

it all works out..

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Don't break a nail. . . . .

:P

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by telekinesis
Don't break a nail. . . . .

:P

Me?

Jubba-yeah I know that's what I should have done =/

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by telekinesis
Don't break a nail. . .

?

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Not you jubba. . . .I am talking about Mr. Heat Stroke.

I live in Arizona, heat is nothing!

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:35 PM
thank you?

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:35 PM
lol yeah good point. I'm actually moving to Arizona in a couple years... I'm looking forward to the heat. I'm sick of all this freakin' snow...

reverendflash
August 15th, 2003, 03:36 PM
but it's a dry 120 degrees...

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telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Jubba
lol yeah good point. I'm actually moving to Arizona in a couple years... I'm looking forward to the heat. I'm sick of all this freakin' snow... When you do hit me up nukka. . . .

Fa shizzly mah nizzly!

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 03:37 PM
Rev.. Good Point

So I'm gonna stop complaining now.
I'm going to get a bunch of applications tomorrow at like target and wal mart and super markets. :P walmart.. woo

Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:37 PM
Only if you promise to not talk like that! ;)

Actually my g/f wants to come down next summer sometime, so I'll be sure to let you know if we end up making it down there...

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:44 PM
I never talk like that :sure:

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Jubba
August 15th, 2003, 03:46 PM
you just made me piss my pants... lol

telekinesis
August 15th, 2003, 03:58 PM
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pinx
August 15th, 2003, 04:02 PM
ok man, you're 16. I've worked food before and it's not fun. I had worked at our local HyVee for 7 months and had asked for a raise like 3 times, but nothing. So I got a job designing websites as a student at the university. I gave a two weeks notice at this job, but the last day I just didn't feel like going so I called in sick and went shopping instead. My manager was actually a real arsehole but he liked me and totally believed me that I was sick.

i did leave on good terms though, even if i lied at the very end. as long as they don't see thru it, i wasn't going to care. so don't burn bridges in the future, you never know when you might need a good reference.

Maxtr0sity
August 15th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Hehe, Josh, you crazy American. You just have to stand for the bs while you work there. I know I came in a bit late in this convo, but still, suck it up man.:P

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 04:20 PM
Yeah the sucking has already taken place Max. Wow that was a bad sentence.

pinx, your totally right about the burning bridges. Now I don't have a reference and have to start over at minimum wage. SIGH

RelandR
August 15th, 2003, 05:17 PM
In future, should you ever be in a spot where you believe your work conditions aren't on the up&up ... there is allways room for taking steps where your rights and safety are protected ... (walking out is not one of them) ...and you retain the backing of the labor commission wherever you live.

Every state has legislation/agency that protects workers (more so for minors)
...read up on the rules and know what you're talking about including what are the acceptable actions/recourse for you to take before making a stand.

lava
August 15th, 2003, 05:40 PM
You know what? You have design skills... I suggest you start using them, and forget about ever working at a burger joint. Look at me, I got a pretty sweet job based on skills I started getting last december.

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 05:47 PM
Thanks relandr and raf.

Believe me, I'm gonna start workin my *** off designing and stuff so I can actually get a job doing something I enjoy.

pinx
August 15th, 2003, 05:51 PM
i got my first design job when i was 16, so i'm sure you can too.

lava
August 15th, 2003, 05:52 PM
We all have to start working our ***** off..

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 05:52 PM
Yes, yes we do

RelandR
August 15th, 2003, 06:12 PM
hey ecks ecks , you forgot the "dot" in yer link :)

& yeah .... like raf said ... develope what it takes to get'ya outta the kitchen

you're certainly way ahead of most of them yahoos out there that are going to make burgers n' fries a career ;)

mdipi
August 15th, 2003, 06:21 PM
i want to get my designing up and going but have to 1 get my site up and 2 find out how to go about getting clients. :-\

Yates
August 15th, 2003, 06:36 PM
Well, at best, think of this as an opportunity to get your new, better job designing and developing webpages off the ground!

Besides, you're better than working the fry machines, eh? eh? ;)


------I've worked at McDonalds before, and I didn't mind it very much, but even so, the time comes to move on for most people. You weren't planning on majoring in Hamburgerology, were you? Still, walking out is no good. However, I disagree with people who say the "boss" has the right to walk out. If something had happened and he was gone...

This is of course assuming the boss wasn't the owner or head manager and that he wasn't doing work related business. You can do whatever you want when you only have to answer to... you.:+)

PS: There is actually a hamburger college that offers degrees in Hamburgerology or something like that. I remember the managers had to take classes there. I'm pretty sure McDonalds owns and runs it, and its just a cute name for their training seminars.

turkey
August 15th, 2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by xxviii
Yeah the sucking has already taken place Max. Wow that was a bad sentence.

pinx, your totally right about the burning bridges. Now I don't have a reference and have to start over at minimum wage. SIGH
My cousin started at Wal-Mart as a cashier about $7.40/hr.... So maybe it won't be quite minimum wage :)

nobody
August 15th, 2003, 08:51 PM
Whoa, 7.40? That's amazing
RelandR, I sort of did I sort of didn't.. haha
Yate, the hamburger school sounds aewsome.. haha..
pinx, what were u doing and where at the age of 16?