For Anyone That's Interested...

[Kitiara]

Would anyone care to have a line art battle? :)

[eyeinfinitude]

I would battle you Kit if you weren't soOooOoOOooooOOOo goOOoOOOoooOOd. When it comes to line art, you're l33t and I'm n00b. :P

[Kitiara]

l33t?

Is this like that w00t thing everyone was on about the other week?

[Starpromo]

kit you would quite simple slaughter anyone who even tried to battle you at line art...

i know someone who is just as good but doesnt vist these forums or surf the net that much at all to be honest... il see if i can get some of his work though.

[eyeinfinitude]

Originally posted by Kitiara
l33t?

Is this like that w00t thing everyone was on about the other week?
lol no Kit, l33t means you're elite, number one, the best, and the greatest. n00b means I'm a newbie, a beginner, I'm what you might call a kiddiwink. :P

[Kitiara]

Oh right... Now I get it. Doh!

Thanks for the compliment. :)

[Kitiara]

Nobody? :o

[telekinesis]

Edwin just left for a 5 week vacation and he is the only one I know of that has any line art. Everyone knows I can't do anything that has to do with lines or art so I won't be subjected to getting owned up in another battle. Maybe if I had a WACOM I would try. I'll ask around on other forums that I post at if they want to battle in line art!

[Kitiara]

Cool, thanks Dan. :)

[Kappa]

ill do a sketched art battle?
i dont have a wacom.. so my pencil and paper comes into use =P

[lostinbeta]

Well kit doesn't use a Wacom for her line art either, so it is fair.

[Jubba]

I would, but I don't get my other computer back until at least Friday. I can start drawing something now, then I could scan in it and start the work on it... I am willing but I would need an extended time period in order to get anything done. :) If the due date was not until the 3rd or 4th then I am all up for it. :)

What theme would you like to do? I was thinking of some type of fantasy...dragons and wizards and such, but anything would do. Just something to keep my imagination in check... :)

[Kitiara]

Cool... As Lost said, I don't have a Wacom (I <i>wish</i> more like) - all I tend to do is draw a sketch by hand then scan it in and trace over it in Flash to add colour and shading etc.

Jubba - Fantasy / dragon type things sound fantastic, real potential there.

Can we have another mod (since I'm entering this one I won't set the rules) to set the guidelines along what's been suggested so far?

[Marz]

What do you mean by line art?

No fills or colors added? Just lines?

Please show me an example and I might participate.. This seems very interesting..

Peace Out

[Jubba]

Line art is pretty much a vector drawing. Here is an example (check out Kit's attachment):

http://www.kirupaforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10821

Here is a tutorial that Kit made:

http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/lineart.asp

[Marz]

I'll do it!

Thanks for the examples dan... I've got a couple of good drawing ideas to throw in this mix and I understand how to do it fairly well...

So.. Chalk me up pardners... I'm reayd to go for this one..

When we starting..
And How long we got?

Peace Out.. btw.. Fantasy/dragons rock!

[Jubba]

Originally posted by playamarz
Thanks for the examples dan...

DAN!?! I'm Jubba, actually Jeff. :) But its all good :P

[Makaveli]

lol..mistaken identity... :P

[mjULTRA]

i might be interested in battling with line art, although Kitiara already has won, just by entering... :)

[Makaveli]

hey maj no worries!! http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/fight.gif to the death!! anything can happen...

[Marz]

I'm pretty decent at artwork though... Ya neer know.. Though I have seen her examples and those are pretty wonderful..

This will be a refreshing challenge... :)

But.. Yeah.. Sorry jubba... *lmao*... :)

[ribcage]

I'm in! would be my first battle , definitely interested. Kit seems to be
very talented so the fear is creeping in . gonna face it tho , let me know what& when.

[Jubba]

I'm asuming that this battle is on, and we're just waiting for another mod to make it official. Kit, I wouldn't mind if you made it official as long as the time frame is ok :) I trust ya! So I'm going to begin my drawing. We all agreed on the fantasy theme correct? I hope so...

[pom]

Can I set the rules? :crazy:

[Jubba]

you're a mod right?

The theme we decided on (I think) is fantasy. And the deadline has to be later than January 3rd. I have much work to do here and I don't get my good computer back until then.

[lostinbeta]

Yeah Ilyas, you can set the rules.... you are a mod, any mod can set the rules :)

Go nuts :beam:

[pom]

:beam:
Line Art Battle everyone!!

Theme: Fantasy -- Phil the Dragon, the terrible White Knight Slayer
Programs: A pen, a piece of paper, A scanner, Flash (did I forget anything?)
Size: let's make it big, shall we? Somewhere around 800*600
Participants: Kit, Jubby, Playamarz, Ribcage, Majeye (?)
Due Date: 01-05-03 (tell me if it's too short, Jubby)

This was my first time, people, so please be indulgent...

pom :crazy:

[Jubba]

Does it have to be strictly a dragon and a knight? Just want to be clear :)

oh, and 1-5-03 should be fine. Thanks! :)

[ribcage]

excellent !!!!!
I take it we have a little tribute to our man Phil as the focal point of this
tournament. Let the Reign of Phire begin!!

[pom]

Originally posted by Jubba
Does it have to be strictly a dragon and a knight? Just want to be clear :)Not strictly I guess, but mostly :beam:

[Marz]

Cool deal...

*gets to work on his*

Peace

[ribcage]

would the use of a wacom tablet violate any restrictions? i t just occurred
to me that other people have mentioned the lack of one, already started
coloring my submission in flash and don't wanna continue if it is a problem.

muchas gracias!

[Marz]

If I'm correct...

The only things you are allowed to use are:

pen/pencil
paper
scanner
flash

You draw the lines with pen/pencil and then color with flash..

I beluieve that is the concept..

Correct?

Peace

[lostinbeta]

Yeah, I am going to say no Wacom use here, since it will be unfair competition that way.


You don't have to use all of the medium, I know kit does a lot of her work from scratch in Flash, no scanning or anything.


So that is optional.

[Kitiara]

Alright, I'm up for this one. :)

And a conversation I was having with Phil the other day has given me a cracking idea... :)

[Jubba]

Good luck to everyone (except Kit :bad: )

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[divtag]

Hi all..

i'm new to this forum, usualy i hang out
around ultrashock. I came over this forum
by chance. I think ur community looks very nice
with creative members.

can i join this battle, or am i too late ?

div...

[Jubba]

I don't mind if you join. I don't think it would be a problem.

[hojo]

if its not too late, i'd like to give it a go. i know any and all people who attempt to go against Kit will be horribly slaughtered, but hey, why not?

[divtag]

Hi all.

i have seen kitiaras tutorial, and i must say she
impress me !.. a true artist indeed.


div...

[hojo]

that looks really good, and is funny because of where the dragons nailing with its eye beams, heh

[Makaveli]

hey thats awsome div...except the dragon should be breathing fire and not shooting a beam from its eye lol :P but i like the originality and humour :P :beam:

[hatebreed.bw]

heres a picture i did of vader in line art :)
i use it on my sig.

[Kitiara]

I see, now all the line artists are appearing... :) What is this, some kind of plot? I like that Darth Vader though, very good.

Beginning to wish I'd never mentioned this contest... I think I'd better get to work on my entry. :)

[Jubba]

Well the whole point of the battle is to DRAW some fantasy type picture and then make it line art in Flash. If you found the dragon on the web then its not really a measure of your artistic ability and more of a measure of your tracing ability. I don't care if you enter it, just I personally wouldn't submit it if it wasn't my image.

[divtag]

i agree jubba..

im out from this battle.. :-)

the idea just struck me, and the lack of time made me
take a "shortcut".. sorry

kitiara... i could never draw like u :-)
no offence by my "entry" i hope ?... just a way of showing
u respect !

later all :-)

div...

[Jubba]

I apologize if I sounded rude or offended. I just don't feel that having an entry that was not drawn by the "enterer" is not fair to the others that are going to draw their entry and put in the time. Your idea was very good, and it looked very good. I still think you should try to come up with something original. Even if you drew that same dragon over yourself and did the same thing.

[Makaveli]

once you post an entry, can you replace that one and enter another one?

[Jubba]

The deadline isn't until the 5th. I'm sure he can change the file as much as he wants until then.

[Kitiara]

Yep - I'd say that the last image to be submitted before the cut-off date is the one that gets voted on.

[Kitiara]

Well, here's my initial one... Think I probably ought to put a background on it though...

[ribcage]

very proud creature you've got there, guess I'll drop in my submission thus far in a short while ( don't want your dragon gettin lonely do we).

congrats on the skills , intimidating as usual.:beam: :cyclops: :nerd:

[ribcage]

with no luck, how do i convert my swf into gif or jpeg?

[Kitiara]

I just normally do a Ctrl+Alt+Print Screen and paste into Photoshop. Then trim off the excess and Save for Web.

[Soul]

Very nice dragon Kit!!! :P

Dont make the background too overpowering if ya make one

Good luck :beam:

- Soul :goatee:

[ribcage]

posted the image at this link hope it works:


www.robjruiz.com

[Jubba]

lol...I like the blond hair...

[ribcage]

yeah, it really was startin to look like phil at some point, seems to have lost it tho.stayed committed to it anyway , still needs some tweakin'.

[Guig0]

hehe :P

cool!

Phil is getting a lot of attention these days... :)

[reverendflash]

Philbo likes attention...

It seems to make him feel "love-d"

:beam:

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[Guig0]

hmmmm

that sound a bit queer to me:-\

[reverendflash]

careful Guigo...

I smell a trout slapping coming on...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[Marz]

*puts up a anti-trout slapping shield...*

I'm almost done with my entry... Gotta put the finishing touches on it before I scan it...

Peace

[Jubba]

I have drawn, and re-drawn my entry 20 times. I want it to be perfect. It looks nothing like what anyone has showed so far. There is a dragon in it, actually 3 or 4 dragons... and a 'knight' as well...but its a bit unorthodox... well, we'll have to see...I won't be posting until the deadline because I won't be able to actually get to work on it with the computer until then...

[Kitiara]

Well here's my updated one. I've put a background on it, but I don't think I'm going to have time to draw a knight as well. I'll see what I can do...

[Soul]

Kit, the knight is in his stomach, thats your excuse ;)

Good work :beam:

- Soul :goatee:

[Kitiara]

Good point, well made.

I was just about to say that myself. *ahem* That's why the dragon is grinning.

Of course, I could always say that Sir Phil <i>is</i> the dragon...

[ribcage]

updated image "sans" phil head at link below.

www.robjruiz.com

btw, Kit, I don't have a print screen button on this laptop keyboard ( maybe because its a Mac ) so I couldn't try your idea yesterday. thx for suggestion tho.

[vip3r]

ribcage: in flash mx, just go to file, export image, and select jpg or gif from the "save as type" menu... :)

[ribcage]

appreciate the help , will submit a jpeg in a few.
this site rocks hard , all you guys are awesome.

Happy New Year Guys!!!!!!

[vip3r]

no problem :)

[ribcage]

here it is in jpeg form, don't know if this is the best format.

Thanx again to vip3r, for the info.

[hatebreed.bw]

very nice rib but its shaded through alot of it and you should focus on not shading other than that nice pic :)

[Makaveli]

wow rib nice work....everyone is so good at drawing....

;( < --- i feel like how this smiley looks :hair: or maybe thats me old and balding...cept i'm not that old..only 72

[ribcage]

this was my first vector art ,I followed kit's tutorial which was very helpful.

I kinda liked the shading hatebreed, I thought it gave the image depth.
could be wrong , I may have overworked the effects.

Flash turned out to be a very capable drawing app, looking forward to the other submissions.

peace=)

[ribcage]

..I think to view art clearly use link in previous post.

The png file is too large for submission, hopefully the link is suitable for final
submission. Otherwise I could email the image to forum if moderators
accept.

[Kitiara]

Flash turned out to be a very capable drawing app, looking forward to the other submissions.
It's certainly my preferred medium. I tried drawing some line art in Photoshop, but just couldn't get it to do what I wanted. Flash doesn't have the range of special effects and tools that Photoshop does, but for my particular style of art, that's a good thing.

[ribcage]

..your work Kit is , you dont keep the stroke in your art. you rely on the tones to give your stuff volume. I am such a pencil to paper guy I can't let go of the outlines ( my own little security blanket ). afraid to leave the sketch behind I guess.
Thx for putting the tute together, never used flash like that before.
The oldest newbie "ribcage"

[ribcage]

..Design & drawing in regards to the definition of line art.
I was not aware of the gradient fill being a nono. I figured that the
limitation of the battle was solely Flash ( gradients and alpha levels included)
with that said I don't mind forfeiting my art , wish you would have posted that last week. had fun with the dragon stuff though, so no big loss.

[Kitiara]

Thanks for the compliment. :)

I did try leaving the outlines in when I first started, but they just seemed to dominate the picture... I submitted one to deviantART. This is the link to it : deviantART Submission (http://www.deviantart.com/view/836796).

I wasn't too keen on it with the lines in, but maybe that's just me. If I thinned them down to .25 stroke then it looked better. But occasionally I need them, as I always draw on a white background, and sometimes the picture blends in. I suck at backgrounds, you see. :)

[ribcage]

I see what you mean about the line dominating, I tried thinning the lines on my dragon and changing stroke colors to more closely match the ares they defined .
Cheers

[Kitiara]

Yeah, that works. I found that a lightish grey was quite good as a stroke colour. It separated everything, but wasn't too extreme.

I prefer just to get rid of the lot though. It makes it easier for me to tell if I've defined everything well enough. If I can't see where limbs etc start and end then I need to work on the picture and shading more.

[Makaveli]

Originally posted by ribcage
..Design & drawing in regards to the definition of line art.
I was not aware of the gradient fill being a nono. I figured that the
limitation of the battle was solely Flash ( gradients and alpha levels included)
with that said I don't mind forfeiting my art , wish you would have posted that last week. had fun with the dragon stuff though, so no big loss.

does he have to forfeit? he didn't even know about those rules....mercy!! :(

[Jubba]

I'm sorry. I really hate to do this, but I am going to have to bow out. My computer is seriously fudged up. We were attempting to put in a 1.8 gHz on my motherboard. Apparently my motherboard didn't like that, so it fried out, and it took the processor and the power supply with it. Now I have to wait for more parts to come in. I won't have my computer back until at least next thursday (at that is if I'm lucky).

Sucks too because I had my images all drawn up. I was finally happy with them after re-drawing them 50 times. :( Good luck to all the rest of you :)

I really feel bad about having to forfeit.

[Makaveli]

oh man that really sucks....at least none of clients work went with it.... :sigh: I:-)

[Jubba]

Actually, my harddrive may have been burned out too. Hopefully I will be able to recover my files. Or else all of my client work is gone as well :( I'm hoping that the data recovery works... :-\

[Kitiara]

I was not aware of the gradient fill being a nono. I figured that the
limitation of the battle was solely Flash ( gradients and alpha levels included)
with that said I don't mind forfeiting my art , wish you would have posted that last week. had fun with the dragon stuff though, so no big loss.

Don't be silly - that's just my definition of 'pure' line art. This battle is about what you can do with it in Flash, so your entry is perfectly acceptable. Besides, if you look at my entry then you'll see I've used a gradient fill myself in there, so I'd have to drop out too. Your entry is more than welcome. :)

[ribcage]

This is the only category I could possibly battle in so I am relieved.
I am a flasher wannabe but have" next to no" skills in scripting, really admire you hard core guys. Hoping to pick up enuff tips on this site to get me moving
on a website with good navigation and design.

you guys inspire me

[Kitiara]

Cool. :)

Anyway, there's nowt wrong with the occasional gradient fill. Nowt at all. :)

[Marz]

I unfortunately have to cut myself out of this match-up as well...

I hate doing this.. But my scanner will not (repeats this after beating the living crap out of his scanner) WILL NOT work correctly.. If I can get a friend to scan mydrawing before the due date I'll throw it up.. Unfortunately for now.. I'm forfeited..

Me sorrie guys.. Was looking forward to presenting you with my drawing.. Oh well..

Good Luck to the rest of you.

[ribcage]

I would really like to see drawings even if they weren't taken to finish.
would be a shame to widdle down such a popular battle, seemed to be at least 5 contestants when it started.

no pressure

Unrelated question-
if I had an Fla that is say version 4 or 5 which forum should i submit sample for discussion. The fla is a photo gallery that has a timer so the images fade in and out until a button triggers a specific image ( say image 4 of 10 ) and if a short interval passed with no more triggering then the fades would begin again, possibly random.

didn't mean to run on

[Jubba]

Once I get my computer back I will upload the image that I was going to submit so that you can see what I would have done.

Kit: I am planning a rematch against you! :P:)

[Marz]

If I can ever get this scanner or another scanner at some point. I'll show you my drawing..

Peace

[Makaveli]

Originally posted by ribcage

Unrelated question-
if I had an Fla that is say version 4 or 5 which forum should i submit sample for discussion. The fla is a photo gallery that has a timer so the images fade in and out until a button triggers a specific image ( say image 4 of 10 ) and if a short interval passed with no more triggering then the fades would begin again, possibly random.

didn't mean to run on

in kirupaforum's of course! in the flash 5 section you will probably get a response....if you need help with 4 i have no idea where to get help for flash 4

[ribcage]

...an acceptable submission?

I know today is deadline for line art battle , but I will be away from computer
and till now haven't found suitable file format.

Good luck to everyone!

By the way Mak, my inquiry before may not have been clear.
The fla I have ( the flash 4/5 photo gallery..) is interesting , I just wanted
to find out if it could be revamped in Flash MX.

I will find the fla in question and post it tonight.

[Kitiara]

OK, I'll post the poll up for the battle votes today. I think it's just ribcage and myself, correct?

In that case, can I have the URL of your entry please, ribcage, and is there anyone out there who can store my entry on their site for a few days? I don't actually have my own web space, embarrassing as that is for me to admit... :)

Jubba - I look forward to our meeting in combat... :beam:

[ribcage]

Hi Kit ,my link is http://www.robjruiz.com

and I could certainly store your entry along with mine.


sidenote: was looking thru archives last night , ran across the cyborg art
you submitted some time ago...really nice stuff.

[Kitiara]

Thank you very much. :)

I've attached my entry to this post. If you can tell me the URL of <i>that</i> then we'll be sorted.

Thanks again. :)

[Kitiara]

Oh bugger, I forgot to attach the image...

[eilsoe]

*faints*

[Kitiara]

Wake up, man! This is no time to fall asleep on the floor... :)

[ribcage]

your image will be at the following link:

http://www.robjruiz.com/kit

i'll keep it posted as long as you need, nothing else there yet ( hehe..)

[hatebreed.bw]

ribcage it looks soooo much better there is a gradient but it looks like it fits right in there now good work mate keep it up :)


im working on a picture of luteniant winters(dont mind spelling :))
from the band of brothers series looks good so far hoping it will be finished b4 the battle ends :S

[Makaveli]

hatebreed, this battle is done and voting has started..its the first sticky in the battle section ribcage Vs Kit

[hatebreed.bw]

:( oh well ill start one later on or try to :)

[mjULTRA]

that footer is badass!! Now lemme ask you something...

Was that lightsaber done in Swift 3d? I have not used any 3d programs that render vectors, but now i am intrigued. :smirk: So, is it Swift? huh, huh, is it? c'mon tell me... :evil:

[hatebreed.bw]

yes it ws used with swift 3d and ill send you the file for swift 3d and the model if you want? gimme email

bwgoose@hotmail.com



i sent you an email back

[sheep]

kitiara, ill go ya - and you'll be going down like this here sheep is

[Guig0]

were is that lightsaber? can i see it?

thanks!

[mariofan]

am i too late to join? if not how do i enter?

thanks

matt kenyon

[lostinbeta]

This battle ended long ago.

[mjULTRA]

i suspect that you are too late. If you want to join a battle, find a new one via the battles section, and make sure that it is one that hasn't started. Or, create a thread in the same section, and challenge people to a battle..

This way, you can suggest the theme, and rules, and whatnot. Good Luck :)

[mjULTRA]

Damn you, LostinBeta! Damn you!!!!! :trout:

J/K :geek:

[mariofan]

thanks for the info!